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just like you're seeing it right now

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oh people are popping up pictures of you

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yeah that jackson seven string is pretty

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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disk has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference is worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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uh yeah man today's monday february 28

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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beautiful in here i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and on x networks i'm your host

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jimmy church

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good evening everybody how you doing all

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right tonight

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we welcome very special guests live here

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in the bunker jordan ziff is with us

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it's all ufos and guitars all night long

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tomorrow night jason quit is back for

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conspiracy number eight

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wednesday night tony and sheree rathman

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join us

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for a night of ghost hunting

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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines all night long

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let's uh let's jump straight into it

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tonight it's uh been a crazy busy

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weekend i understand all of that you can

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox it is live to

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don't bite and any questions or comments

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during the show tonight for myself for

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f2bq let's get straight to the breaking

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slovakia and 16 from bulgaria with an

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off of this program you can go and do

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whatever you want and find your own news

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about this show and ukraine

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are in the news which is nasa is

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without russian help but it doesn't see

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its side of the iss

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spacecraft to periodically give the

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station a boost or it looks right to

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the partnership in response to u.s

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in france guyana who support soyuz

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rocket launches for ross cosmos and

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no air space to fly in seriously now

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shell oil

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is calling it quits in russia and has

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announced plans to exit its relationship

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of the joint venture includes a 27.5

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percent stake and sock holland ii

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liquefied natural gas facility its 50

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bans russian national team and clubs

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from all competitions fifa and wafa of

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world of soccer all of this announced

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teams shall be suspended from

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competitions until further notice

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the world cup is going on right now

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out of all of the sanctions out of

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everything that has gone down

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fifa and wafer and the world cup

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more powerful than most world

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governments this is a big deal all right

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displaying messages to the russian

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people

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now this isn't going to stop until

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anonymous decides to stop and this is a

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good thing

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anonymous is decentralized you can't

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stop them and what putin never

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considered is that some of this hacking

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is coming from inside russia

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there you go we love anonymous let's get

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this show cracking happy birthday to

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gilbert godfreed is 66

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donny iris do you remember donnie iris

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like uh the first week of uh mtv today

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he's 79 had that hit song ah leah

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zebra front man randy jackson is 66.

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remember that hit uh who's behind the

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door do you remember you remember that

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hit who's behind the door you remember

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that jordan's sitting to my left he's

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he's watching me broadcast i'm on stage

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right now it's pretty cool the b-52's

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cindy wilson today is 66 and our dead

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guy's birthday today is brian jones

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1942-1969 died at the age of 27. brian

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was the founder and original leader of

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the rolling stones in june 1969 the

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rolling stones asked brian to leave

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drugs alcohol

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goofing around

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guitarist mick taylor took over

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at 27 years of age he died by drowning

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happy birthday brian jones on the stay

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in history 1953 otd

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cambridge university scientist watson

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the double helix structure of dna

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wow 1953 fader fact

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built on this fader fact is for jordan

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built on the corner of farewell and

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marlboro streets in newport rhode island

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the white horse tavern was built before

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and is believed to be the oldest tavern

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in the united states you didn't know

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that though did you

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tonight very special guest jordan ziff

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is here he's sitting to my left he's

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live in the bunker tonight we're going

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to be talking ufos and guitars all night

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long tomorrow night jason quit is back

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we are doing conspiracy number eight

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wednesday night tony and sheree rathman

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join us

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and uh yeah ghost hunting all night long

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here on fade to black and then thursday

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night is open lines

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all night long

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all right now time for me to hit this

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rivermoonwellness.com fade to black

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blend best coffee in the world man

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stephen where are you getting all these

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pictures of jordan

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are you like a stalker what's going on

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with this

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i mean i got i got jordan

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seven strings

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guitar right here

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check it out

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i just uh checked this guitar out uh

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jordan brought this you know what we'll

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get this live on camera here

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in a bit but uh that's a beautiful

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guitar

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and and ufos all right all right

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where do i start

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i wanted to take a moment and say that

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um i'm totally heartbroken

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about what is happening right now in

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and uh just five short days ago now i

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thought about this this morning you know

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it's monday

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just five short days ago last wednesday

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i remember announcing the start of the

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invasion by russia live on the air and

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that was at 9 30 p.m towards the end of

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on wednesday night and uh

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took the wind out of my sails

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and if you remember

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uh we had a massive internet outage uh

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here in los angeles and my internet went

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down totally unrelated but you would

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think right oh you got a russian

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invasion going on the internet's going

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down to the end of the world

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and uh it was it was a very moody

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evening for me that night and i like

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everybody else

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uh

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watch things unfold live on television

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and i don't like watching the news live

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and here i am forced

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into doing this

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and uh honestly

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it seems like it was a month ago

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i i i cannot believe it has only been

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five days

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two days and a weekend later right

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and here we are i wake up this morning

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and and i've been dealing with this all

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weekend knowing that we've got a week

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uh

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a week's worth of shows in front of us

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and i am just like everybody else uh in

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the rest of the world right now i am

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dealing with this both emotionally

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passionately and then i've also got to

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be a professional and what do i do

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you know and

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and

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it seems that most of the world

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has responded and most everyone is in

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shock with the developments but uh the

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overwhelming support for the people of

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ukraine

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from the entire planet

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is exactly what they need

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all right and that part of it is

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just when the world was finally seeing

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the end

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of a two-year pandemic two years

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after so much stress

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some so many questions about our future

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so many families and children that have

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been affected um around this planet

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because of this pandemic

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and

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had to endure

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over the last two years

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and and i mean at this this is the

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moment

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you know a week ago this was my mood

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that a week ago i'm thinking to myself

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this is the moment that we've all been

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waiting for the pandemic is over

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right the numbers are down it it it's

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it's

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unicorns and rainbows in front of us and

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now i've got flowers hanging out of my

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pockets and and i was just in a great

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mood and then

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boom

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now we have a war in europe

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and and we just don't need this right

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now

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and and i'm not happy about it and i

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don't think that anybody is because

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honestly

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it's just too much it's too much

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we've all been asked to sacrifice so

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much

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over the last 24 months

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and and we've all done that and in our

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own small ways

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we have sacrificed

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and this is exactly 100

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of what we don't need right now

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and i question the timing of all of this

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now here's the deal

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this show has always been a safe place

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for us to hang out

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three hours each night

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and

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uh this audience

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which is one of the biggest in the world

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this audience is used to one thing

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to come here and escape to come here and

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hang out where we don't talk about the

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drama of the world we're too busy asking

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questions

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uh about us and and having fun on this

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show whatever it is

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and and on this show

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um

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i have built this audience

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from nothing

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because i talk about the things that

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interest me and what interests me

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guitars interest me

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a really good taco from a taco truck

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interest me comedies movies

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you know think you know and ufos and

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conspiracies in egypt and ghost and life

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after death and time travel and physics

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in the universe and

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and planets

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those are the things that interest me

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and that's what we talk about each night

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in the show and i refuse to divide and

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conquer this audience and bring in those

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subjects

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that that pick us apart and that's what

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you're used to and you come in here each

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night and we avoid those subjects

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but i don't want to seem indifferent

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or ignorant to what is going on right

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now because i want to be direct with all

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of you in that

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i stand

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by the families the children

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and the people of ukraine

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and i hope for a quick ending to all of

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this

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i don't want to focus on the details on

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the show i will never do that

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um and what i think is going on and what

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you think is going on you can go to your

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own media sources

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your own friends and and figure out

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stuff on your own but i want a quick

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ending to all of this

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right because right now

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we need to focus on

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what is important

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and that is getting this planet back on

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track

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right we still have a lot of work to do

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and uh two years ago

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uh when this pandemic started to kick

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off i had said then

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no matter what it is going to end

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it is going to end so us as a community

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right fade or not this beautiful

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audience you've got to be ready right

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we're going to go and and get relaxed

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and get complacent we're sheltering in

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place we're doing all of those things

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we need to be ready because when it does

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end we're going to realize as a planet

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what it's like to have compassion and to

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love wanting

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one another and how to help others

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everything that we've been avoiding for

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decades

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right and this big build up when it does

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end

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you got to be ready

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right you you just have to

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and that's that's what this show has

439
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always been about and that's what i have

440
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,840
spoken to you about every single night

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is uh to have compassion when this thing

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ends let's go

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and here we were we were at the end

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and now we've got this so i don't want

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to act like i'm ignoring this

446
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one of the points that i got a lot of

447
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email um over the last week about even

448
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before the russian invasion because i

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made a couple of comments

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and i've said this multiple times on the

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air over the years

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that i don't

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watch the news

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i don't do it

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i don't have live television

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i've got big screen tvs all over the

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place i've got modded but i don't watch

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live television i don't do it

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and but i don't want to seem

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you know ignorant and so i'm i'm i'm

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saying these things but

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but i misspoke

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and that is of course i read the news i

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don't watch the news there's a big

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difference

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i'm selective about what i choose to

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have

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fed to me

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i don't want the corporate media version

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of the news

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burned into my eyeballs i don't want

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that and and there that's the difference

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so i've been watching or reading

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the news and and what is going on and

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and i felt the build-up to this i did i

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didn't expect everything to happen on

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wednesday

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but it did happen

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all right now

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yes i'm just like all of you and i was

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affected by it

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and i i made a conscious decision

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do i go and and and talk about this on

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the air

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or not

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i chose not to

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and there's a reason you come here to

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escape

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okay

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my three hours a night here live with

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you not talking about the events of the

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world

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are important to me because i get the

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relief pressure as well

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um i want to address a couple of points

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uh over the years

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as a member of the media and i get that

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when i am live on the air and we have a

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breaking news situation i have to talk

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about it

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and there were two or three events

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when i was over at coast to coast

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and it's a friday night and i've got a

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million people listening to me i'm live

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on the air and i've got

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some mass shooting

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some terrorist activity thing and i've

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got to turn around and cover that

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live on the air

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and i've got the big screens in front of

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me with the with the breaking news and i

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have to cover this i didn't like that

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and i had spoken it changes me you know

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and i'm i'm driving home after the show

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that night

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absolutely depressed

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and what i i needed to stress with all

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of you about those moments

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is that the other talking heads the

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other people that are working live in

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these newsrooms talking about the stuff

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they also have families too and they're

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also affected by this

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and i

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don't like talking about it

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i don't and as a member of the media i

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have to and this is why

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if you're here

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to escape the world which is great

530
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:37,039
because i'm escaping the world too

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and something happens and i do not talk

532
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about it then i'm not doing my job

533
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and it could be something in your

534
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:46,960
neighborhood in your town in your city

535
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and and you don't know about it because

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you're watching and listening to fade to

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black and i don't mention it then i'm

538
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not doing my job

539
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,520
but it also affects me and don't think

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that it doesn't i'm not callous i'm not

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insensitive to this

542
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:04,880
um i'm absolutely 100

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uh involved okay and right now

544
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,760
this planet is really in turmoil there's

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no

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00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:14,480
question about it

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00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,039
after a two-year pandemic and now this

548
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:18,799
it's just too much it's too much for all

549
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,600
of us and it's too much for me all right

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so i've spoken my piece i'm not going to

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00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,360
do it for the rest of the week on the

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show

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i just woke up this morning on monday

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thinking about all of this and it was

555
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weighing heavy on me all right

556
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:35,279
all right

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seriously okay moving on

558
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:41,120
we've had a lot of musicians on the show

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over the years

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00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,559
a lot of musicians

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00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,520
and uh strange connection with with

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00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,440
everybody that we've had on the show

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grand bonnet

564
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,480
comes on this show and tells us about

565
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,559
meeting the ghost of james dean and

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00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,039
that's why he cut his hair off right

567
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,360
that happened on fade to black jennifer

568
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,559
batten jennifer batten on the show says

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the one thing that she loves the most

570
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,320
is ufos and chasing them because she has

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seen them

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and going to the conferences and hanging

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out with us jennifer batten tracy g

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on this show ufos dizzy reed doug

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aldridge

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kurt james rudy sarzo just to name a few

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over the years and tonight we're going

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to carry on that tradition we're going

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to escape tonight because

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tonight jordan ziff is with us he's live

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in the bunker we're going to be talking

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about ufos now um jordan tells me a

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couple of stories over the weekend ufo

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related i said stop stop stop

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save that for the show so we're going to

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talk guitars tonight but we're also

587
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going to talk ufos tomorrow night jason

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quit is back with us for quit conspiracy

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now

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ah has it been almost a year

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right all right fan favorite conspiracy

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number eight is tomorrow night and then

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight jordan

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ziff is with us as you can see live in

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the bunker tomorrow night jason quit is

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hunting thursdays another fader night

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with open lines all night long tonight

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it's jordan ziff

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and uh

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now check out this bio hot shot guitars

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jordan siff

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started touring at a very young age of

712
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just 15 years old with his banned age of

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evil the band eventually morphed into a

714
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,159
beatles-like band called waxy sugar

715
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:12,320
since waxy sugar for the last six years

716
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,679
jordan has been playing with marty

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00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,440
friedman and also took over the lead

718
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,840
guitar position in rat

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and because of the slowdown in touring

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over the last two years jordan decided

721
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,600
to go back into writing

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00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,159
and uh and put together the band that he

723
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:28,799
always wanted to do that band is called

724
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,679
hot crazy i posted their videos

725
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uh

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hot crazy it's crazy hot

727
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:44,470
posted their videos uh up in uh social

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media today and you can go over to

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hotcrazyband.com and uh the links for

730
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:52,399
that are in social media and of course

731
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,679
over on our website welcome to the

732
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,679
program how you doing man i'm doing

733
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:57,200
great thank you so much for having me

734
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,919
okay now uh see this is why we sound

735
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,840
check okay jordan

736
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,600
lean into that mic can you hear me

737
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,240
better now is uh oh wait a minute now

738
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:08,720
now talk can you hear me now better now

739
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:14,549
oh man it's uh

740
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:17,360
it's it's great to have you here and uh

741
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,240
do you

742
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,480
have the opportunity to you know like be

743
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,799
live in a in a radio studio and do

744
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,960
interviews like this often i have not

745
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:26,559
done this in a really long time actually

746
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:30,000
so it's very exciting and uh this is the

747
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,360
deal

748
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:33,360
um i'm gonna jump straight into it

749
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,159
obviously i like guitars it's a pretty

750
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:38,080
cool place to hang out isn't it yeah

751
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:39,840
it's really awesome really cool guitars

752
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:44,470
oh man

753
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:47,279
and uh but here's the deal i'm just

754
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:48,799
gonna get straight to it

755
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,039
um your name

756
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,600
um has been popping up i'm in the guitar

757
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,480
world right and it's been popping up uh

758
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:58,399
uh over the years

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and

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00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,640
you've managed to in in quite short

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00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,039
order to to build a name for yourself do

762
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,200
you feel pressure with that that you

763
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know you go from

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doing your thing in phoenix to

765
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:12,879
you know

766
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,000
the world stage is there pressure i mean

767
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:18,079
there's always pressure in a way because

768
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you always just want to be the best that

769
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:21,520
you can be and

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00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,480
me

771
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:24,800
being the best that i could be is

772
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:27,919
what created me so in a way it's more

773
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,560
just me pressuring myself to be the best

774
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,919
that i can be

775
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,399
well and and yeah okay

776
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,720
that uh you should run for office that's

777
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,119
a good political answer but you know

778
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,800
that there are guitar players like me

779
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:43,200
hanging out at the shows now going okay

780
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,760
this guy better be good

781
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,599
it's it's funny because

782
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,599
that kind of stuff never bothered me

783
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,280
because i never really cared about

784
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guitar and the aspect of it being a a

785
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competition to impress other guitar

786
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,119
players it's like if i do a good show

787
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,280
i i'm happy with myself and if i don't

788
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,680
i'm not but it's not because oh like

789
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,760
this guy was in the audience so i better

790
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,160
do really well tonight you know

791
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,560
who has showed up at some of your gigs

792
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:12,960
uh other guitar players uh so many

793
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,400
people but for me i think uh okay so a

794
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:19,119
really big deal for me was on my first

795
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,240
tour

796
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,040
with marty uh jason becker came to our

797
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:25,839
show oh man and and you know for me

798
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:28,000
growing up i was a huge marty and jason

799
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,359
becker fan

800
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,680
and for him to be in the audience

801
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,599
watching that show was just such a huge

802
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:35,839
deal for me that that was maybe the one

803
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,079
and only show where i was like dude you

804
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,839
can't screw this up tonight you have to

805
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:41,599
be really good tonight dude

806
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,440
and now let's talk about um uh playing

807
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,800
styles uh

808
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,240
for a bit here

809
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,079
um how old are you

810
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,720
i'm 30. you're 30. okay

811
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:54,000
so

812
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:54,880
you

813
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:57,920
um there's a whole era obviously of

814
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,240
guitar players uh

815
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,520
that uh

816
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:03,440
influenced somebody like me you know at

817
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,440
my age uh that we grew up with right so

818
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,160
i'm i'm in real time dealing with

819
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,359
um led zeppelin or you know ted nugent

820
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:14,960
or whatever that was happening in the

821
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,599
70s and the 80s and of course eddie

822
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,680
uh came along later

823
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,320
but those were the influences

824
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,119
uh for you growing up

825
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,160
what were your influences early on well

826
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,320
it's very odd actually i mean not odd

827
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:32,079
but kind of odd because the way that i

828
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:33,599
play guitar now is not necessarily

829
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,680
related to my original

830
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,480
real guitar influence which was santana

831
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,520
and he was uh when i was probably around

832
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:43,200
seven that's when the song smooth came

833
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,920
out

834
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:46,160
and i know i know i know

835
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,119
i'm young i'm super young uh and that

836
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,680
song came out and my dad was into it and

837
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,240
he's like dude check this out and the

838
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:56,000
the tone and the phrasing and all that

839
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,880
was just

840
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,720
something about that was the thing that

841
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:01,040
was like okay like because even before

842
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:02,720
that i was telling my parents i want to

843
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,000
get a guitar i want to get a guitar and

844
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,760
they were kind of i think not taking me

845
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,440
super seriously about it because i was

846
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,520
into like the beatles and stuff like

847
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,040
that and i just

848
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:13,200
it was it wasn't about guitar playing

849
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:14,720
for me it was about like i want to be

850
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,960
the guitar player of a band

851
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,359
you know and and then that song came out

852
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:20,880
smooth and i just loved how the guitar

853
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:21,920
sounded so i'm like i need to play

854
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,920
guitar that was of course like the first

855
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:25,680
thing i learned on guitar

856
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,960
and it kind of

857
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,280
uh and then and then at that same time i

858
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,599
was really into bands like blink 182 and

859
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:34,079
some 41 and i was really into pop punk

860
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,160
stuff and i felt that that was really

861
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,040
great for the time because easy easy to

862
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,920
play right exactly easy to play so you

863
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,920
can start jamming with people instantly

864
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,000
right because if i if i

865
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,800
if if van halen was my favorite thing

866
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,880
ever that made me pick up the guitar i

867
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,160
feel like i would have been so

868
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:54,720
discouraged because i wouldn't be able

869
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,680
to play it right away and i always for

870
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,359
years i just played stuff that was kind

871
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:01,440
of just stuff you'd be the guitar player

872
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,720
in a band not like anything uh

873
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,240
virtuoso

874
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,000
esque you know and

875
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:10,320
later uh in in fact it's funny that i

876
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,599
started playing with marty friedman

877
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,560
because uh marty friedman and jason

878
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,280
becker's cacophony stuff was the first

879
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,280
time i ever heard

880
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:21,599
people play guitar that was like

881
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:22,400
oh

882
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,599
man i did not know that this was even

883
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,920
physically possible right right you know

884
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,520
so to end up playing in marty's band

885
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:31,520
honestly like was a huge deal for me

886
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:32,400
because

887
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,000
he was a huge influence of mine to

888
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:37,839
where i am today but if we're just

889
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,480
talking about who really influences me

890
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,800
today as far as guitar marty freeman's a

891
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,960
huge influence of mine and playing with

892
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:46,480
him for those years

893
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:47,520
obviously

894
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:50,000
influenced how i play but i my favorite

895
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,119
guitar player is brian may and and tom

896
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:55,520
schultz from boston and i just really

897
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,040
like guitar

898
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,640
that is super melodic and i like chords

899
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,359
like that and and i like the guitar

900
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,000
to be um

901
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,000
more like my voice not like i'm playing

902
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,320
guitar but it's like i i want to be able

903
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,240
to sing with my guitar

904
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,280
what um when you make a transition i

905
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,000
mean because blink 182

906
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,800
um and tom delong's been on the show and

907
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:23,280
and you know and things

908
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,640
and uh

909
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:27,440
blink 182 was one thing

910
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,920
but who you are as a guitar player today

911
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:31,200
is another

912
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:32,400
how did you

913
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,599
and and try to figure out that you know

914
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,359
i'm going to use the word virtuoso right

915
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:40,960
that style of

916
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:43,760
of uh playing how did how do you go from

917
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,240
blink 182 to that

918
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,200
i i don't know i just tried i listened

919
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,960
to it and i just tried to kind of play

920
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,280
it i just did my best to

921
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,359
uh i listened to how they were playing

922
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,599
and and you know my mindset has always

923
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,480
been

924
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,960
uh if someone can do it i can do it too

925
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:02,960
because we're humans right so

926
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,520
if if a human can accomplish that i

927
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,200
think i can accomplish that too because

928
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:08,800
i'm a human but i would just start

929
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:09,680
learning

930
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:12,240
not full songs but just bits you know

931
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:16,240
cacophony bits uh paul gilbert bits uh

932
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:18,960
warren d martini bits envey bits you

933
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,520
know i just i kind of just tried to

934
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,440
they're zac wild bits you know i kind of

935
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,560
try to take

936
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,079
a little bit of everything from people

937
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,680
but i never uh

938
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:30,160
i never was the guy that was like

939
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:31,280
so

940
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,720
really like that this guy did this and

941
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,560
this guy did this and this guy did this

942
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,319
and i would i just

943
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,160
try to steal little things from

944
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,560
everybody and not steal because i

945
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,720
definitely try to take them and

946
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,400
change them a little bit to make them my

947
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,720
own but i guess i'm just kind of like a

948
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,319
mishmash of a whole bunch of different

949
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:54,960
things but i really just tried hard to

950
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,240
to emulate little bits of people to

951
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,160
create whatever it is that i am i have

952
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,720
no idea what that is what about uh

953
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:05,280
things like uh stevie ray vaughan or

954
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,560
billy gibbons and and pentatonic blues

955
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,160
stuff did you

956
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:12,400
did you take a left turn anywhere and

957
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,960
and jump into that i feel like that's

958
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:17,280
i'm really into that stuff more now than

959
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:19,440
ever and i'm really

960
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,960
uh i i guess i i wasn't super i wasn't

961
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,680
really a blues player and i realized

962
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,760
that the blues when i listen to people

963
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,680
really play the blues i'm like that's

964
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:31,520
that's kind of my favorite thing you

965
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,560
know because the phrasing of it is more

966
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,560
vocal right so

967
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:38,560
for me i don't

968
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:42,400
i really i guess now i really try to

969
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:43,839
play

970
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,560
the blues but with like weird stuff in

971
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,880
there too so i'd say nowadays my playing

972
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,560
is more based in

973
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:52,400
i guess i think i look at it like the

974
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:55,520
blues like i think of it like that

975
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,960
um i did a weird thing this interview

976
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,119
and this conversation isn't about me

977
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,839
but what i did find myself doing at one

978
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:04,960
point

979
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,319
after so many years of histrionics right

980
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:10,400
and i'm doing all of this stuff

981
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,160
um and i i laid that down

982
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,640
for a couple of years

983
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,200
and really got into

984
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,000
like zz top and stevie ray vaughan and

985
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,079
and maybe even a little jeff back too as

986
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:27,040
well where that's all i played for a

987
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:28,480
couple of years

988
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,400
and and it was i i felt that i missed

989
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:33,839
something

990
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,200
in my development growing up and then uh

991
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:39,599
jumping back into it and then going back

992
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,839
and and playing the stupid stuff again i

993
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,599
played it differently

994
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:45,680
yeah and it's funny you say that because

995
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,560
uh i i look back at my development too

996
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,319
and go yeah i feel like i missed a lot

997
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,440
of that that blue stuff and and uh now

998
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:55,359
it's something that i i love i love

999
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:56,480
doing

1000
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,520
you know

1001
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,920
minor third bends major third bends

1002
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:02,160
finding all like the really nice spots

1003
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:03,119
in your

1004
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,839
pentatonic scales to do those gigantic

1005
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:07,920
bends and obviously adding in all those

1006
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,240
extra notes in between but

1007
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,040
but it's for me it's all about the bends

1008
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:15,520
bending bending bending in tune how you

1009
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,720
vibrato that's that's it to me uh

1010
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,520
i don't care how fast anyone plays

1011
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,119
guitar it's like

1012
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:25,040
if i go see someone play guitar they

1013
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,400
could play really slow but if they're

1014
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,400
playing something that's really cool and

1015
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:30,800
they bend perfectly in tune in and

1016
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,560
they're

1017
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:34,240
expressive with their vibrato because

1018
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,000
you know vibrato is is is is so crucial

1019
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,200
to how you emote on the guitar right so

1020
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,520
there's some people who have a vibrato

1021
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:45,920
that's always the same right it's like

1022
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,119
sure like you are consistent with it and

1023
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,079
it's a technique but vibrato to me is

1024
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,960
not a technique vibrato is sometimes i

1025
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,200
want it to be slow sometimes i want it

1026
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,960
to be fast sometimes i want it to be

1027
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:01,200
wide sometimes i want it to be narrow

1028
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,440
because it's all about how that note

1029
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:06,000
makes me feel at that time right right

1030
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,000
right and uh there is um

1031
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:12,079
too many notes

1032
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:15,920
is great i love that i love watching and

1033
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,400
appreciating the amount of time

1034
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:20,960
that has gone into that and then

1035
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,760
i shift back and think

1036
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:26,640
about miles davis and his comments about

1037
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,520
this

1038
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:30,160
because miles

1039
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:31,599
is the opposite

1040
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:35,280
right he's playing

1041
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,960
single note melodic things from the

1042
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,920
heart

1043
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,400
that you are waiting for the next note

1044
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,800
right you're like oh my god what's he

1045
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:47,200
going to play next yeah and he grew up

1046
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:51,520
in an era of these million note

1047
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,280
great jazz players but

1048
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:57,200
you know fantastic right

1049
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,480
but miles would say you know what a

1050
00:45:01,270 --> 00:45:00,480
million notes is cool

1051
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,280
but

1052
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,520
there's something else going on

1053
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:05,359
and i think there's something to be said

1054
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:08,560
for that uh you know to uh to wait for

1055
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,160
the next note instead of the next 30.

1056
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,640
right and and you know it's not that i

1057
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,319
would ever discredit

1058
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,960
uh the the musicians but you know you

1059
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,640
think about it from like a perspective

1060
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:23,119
of people that aren't musicians and

1061
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,000
um

1062
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,319
you know they go to the shows generally

1063
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:29,520
for what to see who

1064
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,640
the singer

1065
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,119
right i mean that's just factual right

1066
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:35,359
not not to discredit amazing musicians

1067
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:36,319
i'm

1068
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,440
whatever like i play guitar um and

1069
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,720
i think that you can take any instrument

1070
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,480
and become a vocalist with your

1071
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,880
instrument if you look at it that way if

1072
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,280
you can think like a singer you can play

1073
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:51,599
your instrument how a singer would and

1074
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,960
when you do that it it it will connect

1075
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,079
to more people than ever

1076
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:00,960
that's right and now

1077
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:03,760
there's another part to this though

1078
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,680
did you take lessons

1079
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,520
i did take lessons actually i took

1080
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,280
lessons for the first

1081
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,560
[Music]

1082
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:12,640
few years for sure and then didn't take

1083
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:13,839
lessons for a while and then took

1084
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,440
lessons probably for another year from

1085
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,960
the same guy and

1086
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,400
just uh

1087
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,720
but but i would say that he

1088
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,040
showed me a lot of cool things but i

1089
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:25,680
would say my whole perspective on guitar

1090
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:26,800
is very

1091
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,760
um

1092
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,760
very self-taught the way that i guess my

1093
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:32,160
perspective is it's it's i'm not really

1094
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,520
a theory guy

1095
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,440
um it's really just an ear thing and

1096
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,160
just trying to figure it out you know

1097
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,560
now being a hired gun

1098
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:41,760
um

1099
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,119
and and playing somebody else's material

1100
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:47,040
is is one thing

1101
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,760
but

1102
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,760
writing your own material

1103
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,599
it that's that's a whole nother

1104
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:53,839
situation how did you

1105
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,440
uh develop as a songwriter

1106
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,440
you know because you're learning and and

1107
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,680
things how did you how did you mold

1108
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,839
yourself into that um

1109
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:06,160
i don't know i think that songwriting is

1110
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,599
kind of something

1111
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,839
uh from within i don't i mean i guess

1112
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,760
it's learned i don't know i mean i guess

1113
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,599
i don't really talk about this topic

1114
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:15,200
with a lot of people but

1115
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:16,000
um

1116
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,280
it's just from

1117
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,520
listening to a lot of different genres

1118
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,280
and being able to

1119
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,040
kind of

1120
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,200
read between the lines of

1121
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,119
how they came up with that you know and

1122
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,040
why they came up with that as opposed to

1123
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,280
like oh they came up with that or like

1124
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,040
learning a song and and really

1125
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,760
understanding why try to get into the

1126
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,359
minds of people of why they did

1127
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:39,359
something not how they did something and

1128
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,040
i think that over time

1129
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,520
you learn so many songs you

1130
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,240
uh listen to so many songs and

1131
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:49,119
you just kind of start to go

1132
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,640
i like this and i like just like

1133
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,079
learning an instrument i like this and i

1134
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:53,680
like this and i like this how do i put

1135
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,319
these things together into my own type

1136
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,480
of songwriting do you write in your head

1137
00:48:02,069 --> 00:47:59,760
first

1138
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,079
it depends generally i'd say yes but

1139
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,400
sometimes i just pick up a guitar or sit

1140
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:07,040
at a piano and just start playing stuff

1141
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:07,760
but

1142
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:08,880
i would say

1143
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,839
most of the time it's kind of in my head

1144
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,760
first of of uh

1145
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,440
just something that will pop in my head

1146
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,760
like a melody or whatever and i'll just

1147
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,680
kind of pull out my phone and sing

1148
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:21,599
something into the phone and

1149
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:23,440
and and save that for later and kind of

1150
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:24,800
come back to it and go what was i

1151
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,480
thinking there what challenges you today

1152
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,720
and and and i'm i'm asking you this

1153
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,559
because um

1154
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:35,040
you can play whatever you want to play

1155
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:38,079
right whatever whatever it is

1156
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:38,960
uh

1157
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:41,599
you can go and get it done

1158
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,920
how do you challenge yourself

1159
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:45,040
writing

1160
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,359
biggest challenge i want to

1161
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:51,520
continue to just write really cool stuff

1162
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,319
that

1163
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,319
uh i think a lot of people will

1164
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,760
appreciate

1165
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:57,839
it's not you know you it there's that

1166
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,800
line of of you know and hot crazy is

1167
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,800
really just stuff that we want to hear

1168
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,119
right so but i believe that so many

1169
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:06,880
people want to hear something like that

1170
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:09,040
as well but but there's that challenge

1171
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,240
of

1172
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,920
not going too far

1173
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,440
with something of like you know like

1174
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,599
where people like ah i'm not i don't get

1175
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,119
that you wouldn't you went a little bit

1176
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,440
left field here and and and i really

1177
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:22,240
love that too i love to write weird

1178
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,839
things like instrument i have so many

1179
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,520
instrumental songs that i never released

1180
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:27,040
and they're just like they do this thing

1181
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:28,240
and then they go into this completely

1182
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,520
different thing and then they go back to

1183
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,599
the original chorus and it's like it

1184
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:33,760
goes like it takes you on this whole

1185
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,559
journey and i love that too but i guess

1186
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:38,319
my challenge is

1187
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:44,870
digestible

1188
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:48,079
and now let's talk about hot crazy for a

1189
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,040
second

1190
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,640
um

1191
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,640
the idea

1192
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:55,200
for the band you've got two things going

1193
00:50:04,549 --> 00:49:56,240
on

1194
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,559
and then you've got the music

1195
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,720
what came first for the band

1196
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,319
for you what did you want to put

1197
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:09,920
together first

1198
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,400
the music for sure for me it's it's all

1199
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:14,559
about the music it starts with the music

1200
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,440
and

1201
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:16,880
uh

1202
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,880
i i wanted i want to be in a band where

1203
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,880
you can kind of write whatever you want

1204
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,960
and you can also look

1205
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,200
however you want to look and to me

1206
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,000
that's so beautiful because uh if you're

1207
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,920
in if you're in a hard rock band it's

1208
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,839
like people expect your albums to always

1209
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,920
sound like this if you're in a a metal

1210
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,520
band it always sounds like this if

1211
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,160
you're really poppy you know it's

1212
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:42,720
expected to be

1213
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,200
more electronic and it's just like

1214
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,000
i want to be in a band that we can do

1215
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,760
anything which

1216
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,400
we will we will do so many different

1217
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:55,440
things and i'm i'm very excited about it

1218
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,040
now okay so now we've got the image side

1219
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:01,839
of of the band of hot crazy

1220
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,720
which if somebody is just listening to

1221
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,800
the tracks and they have no idea what's

1222
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,680
going on right and then they turn around

1223
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,920
and see the image of the band there's a

1224
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,319
certain shock value there that is really

1225
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:17,440
bleep and cool right can't deny that how

1226
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,319
do you go out and find musicians

1227
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,280
that are of that caliber that can hang

1228
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,119
and and and and do this but also have

1229
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:29,359
the willingness to

1230
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:30,880
throw caution to the winner just do

1231
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:33,040
whatever you want as far as image goes i

1232
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:34,480
mean honestly

1233
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,440
pure

1234
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,720
luck

1235
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,400
to find people like that because that's

1236
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:40,400
not an easy thing to do and

1237
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:43,040
and and we're all on the same page about

1238
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,359
what we want this band to be and we

1239
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,240
write beautiful things together and

1240
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:50,559
uh we're always gonna be wanting to push

1241
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,839
the envelope and and and uh

1242
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,680
look look weird like look whatever we

1243
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,839
wanna do and to me this look like how we

1244
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,160
look isn't weird to me i think of uh

1245
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:01,920
like earth wind and fire or something

1246
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,079
like that like that was that was so like

1247
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:06,640
that was a thing right like like

1248
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,559
people forget you know it's like that

1249
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,960
was the thing and and i love that and

1250
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:12,880
and i really want to do that because

1251
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,040
when i go see a band play

1252
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,920
i don't want to go see a band that's

1253
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:19,280
wearing

1254
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:23,280
go see a band that comes out and it's

1255
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:24,000
like

1256
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,400
guys changed your clothes from the

1257
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,319
clothes that you came to the club

1258
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,839
wearing you know that means a lot to me

1259
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,520
all of those things mean a lot to me

1260
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,160
putting on a show is half of the sale

1261
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,800
yeah it just it's it's important and i

1262
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:42,480
think it's uh

1263
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:43,280
it's

1264
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:49,040
people are like why why do you feel like

1265
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:50,319
you need to do that why do you do that

1266
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,119
it's like why why do you feel like we

1267
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,920
don't need to do that why what's wrong

1268
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:57,359
with that

1269
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,400
i always go back um i don't want to date

1270
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,559
myself but uh

1271
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:05,359
if we go back and look at something like

1272
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:06,800
van halen

1273
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,280
we know what the albums did

1274
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,079
but they the circus came to town when

1275
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,440
they were on tour

1276
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,839
right and that they were there to

1277
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,760
entertain

1278
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,079
you knew the music was going to be there

1279
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,640
but it was about the show and the circus

1280
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,240
wasn't it right

1281
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,400
and and it

1282
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,720
i i like i said i'm not saying nobody

1283
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,040
does that but it's just i

1284
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,359
i don't understand why more people don't

1285
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,160
do that like why they don't want to

1286
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:38,960
it's very confusing to me i was on tour

1287
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:43,280
with the band not gonna say who it was

1288
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,240
one

1289
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:46,720
color of lights

1290
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,000
no no lighting guy on tour

1291
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,119
that's it they wanted no no action on

1292
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:55,760
the stage i thought why why what what

1293
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,800
what

1294
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:59,359
now for the audience now i understand

1295
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:00,800
the artistic statement that they're

1296
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,839
trying to make right that were not about

1297
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:05,040
the show

1298
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:06,640
but you know what people are still

1299
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:07,920
buying tickets

1300
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,640
right

1301
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400
i think it just depends on

1302
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:12,400
what you want to do and what your type

1303
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,079
of artistic integrity is i mean uh i

1304
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,040
i like i just think that more is more i

1305
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,359
want to write really crazy songs and i

1306
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:23,440
want to look really crazy i want to have

1307
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:26,079
crazy lights i want to have sparks on

1308
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,359
stage i want to go you know when we

1309
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,599
play shows and people that don't know us

1310
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,440
are like who do these guys think they

1311
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,480
are

1312
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,799
and then we play and then they go

1313
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,200
oh that's who they think they are you

1314
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,520
know and and and of course there's going

1315
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:43,839
to be uh just there's always just going

1316
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,720
to be negativity of of like

1317
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:47,520
like

1318
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:57,280
it we think it's cool i think it's cool

1319
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:00,240
to wear high heels i think it's cool to

1320
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:03,359
be super tall i think it's cool to wear

1321
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:06,880
shiny red leather outfit i just i think

1322
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,839
it's cool i'm not trying to do or be

1323
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:12,160
anything i just want to do it because it

1324
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,200
makes me feel good now uh we're going to

1325
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,000
hit a break here in uh 90 seconds

1326
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,880
and we have a mutual friend neelu and i

1327
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:22,640
know she's listening right now what's up

1328
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,839
neelu

1329
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:25,040
and uh

1330
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,000
and

1331
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,640
she approached me about you guys so

1332
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:29,920
excited

1333
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:33,839
and and tried to get my attention

1334
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,119
uh i like anybody else right we're busy

1335
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,079
right you know and and things and and

1336
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:41,760
and once

1337
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:42,640
i

1338
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,000
now

1339
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,599
um what about uh getting uh

1340
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,119
to the next stage

1341
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,280
i know you guys are recording right now

1342
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,839
but but what happens next

1343
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,119
definitely

1344
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,680
proper management proper booking agent

1345
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:10,000
and uh we need a record label to be

1346
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:11,280
frank because

1347
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,839
we're very into high production value

1348
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,520
high production music videos and all

1349
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,319
that and it's uh it's definitely tough

1350
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,799
to fund all of it on your own so

1351
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,040
that's kind of our next step right now

1352
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,640
which we're doing and we're signing

1353
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,079
right now which i can't really talk

1354
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,480
about but it's it's moving well i was

1355
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:31,359
hoping to get the secret reveal here

1356
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,880
live on the air

1357
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,280
that that was my see i just threw that

1358
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:36,720
that you know i was fishing that's what

1359
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:39,599
we call fishing yeah i was fishing

1360
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,079
uh uh the band is incredible when we

1361
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:44,880
come back um after this break

1362
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,920
i want to talk a little bit of gear

1363
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:49,760
i want to get that out of the way but i

1364
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:53,200
also want to find out the secret process

1365
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:55,040
of finding the members in this band

1366
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,160
because

1367
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,480
it's a clicking on all cylinders i mean

1368
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,160
you've got all the all the right things

1369
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,920
in in the right place at the right time

1370
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,760
thank you let's take our break right

1371
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,599
here this is fade to black i am your

1372
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,200
host jimmy church tonight guitarist

1373
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:09,200
jordan ziff is here we're going to talk

1374
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,640
ufos you guys stay right there

1375
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,960
on the on x and game changer network i'm

1376
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:17,440
yours jimmy church more with jordan ziff

1377
00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:45,990
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1378
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:48,150
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1379
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,690
on the game changer radio network

1380
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,200
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1381
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:55,680
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1383
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[Applause]

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so

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to block i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight jordan ziff is with

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us live here in the bunker

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it's a full night of guitars and ufos

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tonight

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and uh tomorrow night jason quit is here

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quit spirity eight and then wednesday

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night uh tony and sheree rathman

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but uh tonight it's it's just guitars

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and ufos jordan

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and

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uh doug aldrich that's doug playing

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right there yeah he's an amazing guitar

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amazing yeah amazing and uh uh

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we were you know talking before the show

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i've known doug now for

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uh 35 years and

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uh

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okay i'm gonna tell you a funny doug

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aldridge story this is a guitar player

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story so we're sitting in the studio

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we're recording tracks

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and uh i'm like engineering you know i'm

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hitting the record button doug is

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playing some solo stuff

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and uh

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chewing a piece of gum

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lays down this track

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and uh and i'm mesmerized

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right i'm sucked in like oh my god

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that's the greatest thing i've ever

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heard right

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and uh

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and he goes uh and we stop and he goes

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how was that he's chewing gum you know

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i said uh i'm just like stunned and he

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goes

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let's do it again i was like no dude no

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no

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um and and i'm sure you can appreciate a

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moment like that where you have somebody

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like doug when you're around these great

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players

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and

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they know that they can do it better

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01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,559
do you do you do the same thing yeah

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01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,319
that's actually i was funny i was just

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having this conversation with uh some

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people but you know you always want to

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be that guy

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that does something cool and then people

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go dude and then you're like what what

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hold on i can do that better you know if

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you're playing a show and people are

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01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:37,920
like that was like

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be nice just say like oh my god thank

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thank you so much but but when you're in

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the studio you want to be that guy who

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plays something cool and then they go

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that was great perfect and you go wait

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01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:49,920
no i can do it better you don't want to

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be the guy who plays something and then

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you go

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was that good enough

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01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:56,960
right now do you okay now what about the

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trust in the engineer where he says

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ah

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no that's fine we're moving on

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do you trust that advice

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uh sometimes it just just depends on so

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you'll override you'll override it

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depends on how much coffee i've had

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oh man okay

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01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:18,000
uh uh

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i want to talk about the band but i want

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to talk some gear uh for just a second

1553
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:25,520
you play um uh seven string i'll call it

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01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:28,400
single cut les paul les paul styled uh

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01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:32,240
uh jackson yeah um but uh your the

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01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:34,000
guitar that i had you bring tonight oh

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01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,280
we didn't bring it in the studio we'll

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01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:37,520
bring it in after the break your charvel

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01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:40,559
telecaster uh the hello kitty guitar

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01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:43,440
that's a six string yeah um

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01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:45,680
what's the challenge of seven string

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01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:48,160
well i started playing a seven string

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01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,599
because i was playing with marty

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01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,200
friedman and

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01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:53,440
a lot of his songs have seven string

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rhythm guitars

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01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:56,640
and that was my first time ever playing

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01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,039
a seven string it was it was a it was

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01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:02,079
pretty difficult for me to to just adapt

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01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:03,760
to it super quickly because it was never

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01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:05,599
a thing i was really interested in

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01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:08,240
playing but i think that over time i

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01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:09,599
actually really learned to like it and

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01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,720
also part of adapting to it is i don't

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01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,640
play guitar like a

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01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:16,079
you know if i use the seven string it's

1577
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:17,280
because the song needs it or whatever

1578
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:19,359
but i don't play the song or the guitar

1579
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:20,799
like a seven string guitar player it's

1580
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,200
more like i can play the seven string

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01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,599
guitar but i still feel like it's a six

1582
01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:27,680
string guitar and then the seventh

1583
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:29,839
string is there when i need it so it's

1584
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:31,280
like you have to you know because i had

1585
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:32,960
to play a lot of songs too where i

1586
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:34,559
didn't need to use the seven string but

1587
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:35,680
it's kind of like

1588
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,119
i just don't want to keep switching

1589
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,799
guitars back and forth so i would just

1590
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:40,640
use the guitar the whole night and it

1591
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:42,559
was kind of like learning to ignore that

1592
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,559
the seventh string was there now what

1593
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,480
about the width of the neck yeah the

1594
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,119
width of the neck is is wide it doesn't

1595
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:50,880
bother me uh

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01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:53,680
so much but because i guess i jam on

1597
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:55,119
bass guitar sometimes so it's kind of

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01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,440
like yeah it feels like in between a

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01:07:02,950 --> 01:06:59,440
bass guitar and a guitar

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01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,960
and a little more shop talk

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01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,880
uh what cage of strings

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01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:06,720
on the seven string guitar or just in

1603
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,480
general well on seven string you've got

1604
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:10,240
piano strings on that yeah i don't even

1605
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,680
know where that i don't even know

1606
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:13,119
probably it goes to like a 60 or

1607
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:14,880
something like that but i generally use

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01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,319
10 to 46 and and sometimes i'll play 11

1609
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:21,680
to 48 if i'm tuned down a half step it

1610
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:23,839
just depends on how often i've been

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01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:24,960
playing guitar because there will be

1612
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,280
days like i'll not play guitar for five

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01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,520
or six days and i'll come back to it my

1614
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,520
hands will be killing me even on tens

1615
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:34,400
yeah would i what i do this is strange

1616
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,520
if i have a hard tail which you know

1617
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:39,280
i've got a lot of hardtails

1618
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:46,470
uh anything with a floyd i'm nines

1619
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:49,920
i think that to an extent

1620
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:52,079
that makes sense in my mind if you have

1621
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:54,319
a floating floyd because when you're

1622
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,079
doing bends it's not going to pull the

1623
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,880
floyd as much right i guess right i'm

1624
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,960
not a scientist but that seems right in

1625
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,039
my mind so if you want to do some double

1626
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:05,520
stop bends the nines will kind of be in

1627
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,480
tune more well there's that and that

1628
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,280
comes into play and then for me it's

1629
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:12,960
kind of weird

1630
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:16,000
but there's also a tonality difference

1631
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,880
so

1632
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:18,640
the hardtails

1633
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:22,640
with tens on it is a warmer sound

1634
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:25,199
especially on the higher strings

1635
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:26,319
where

1636
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,520
nines

1637
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,000
have a little more

1638
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:32,799
ring tingy thing that happens especially

1639
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,239
with distortion

1640
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,799
and certain amps yeah i mean eddie van

1641
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:38,719
halen played nines and

1642
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:40,159
i think he had a pretty good career

1643
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,440
doing it so

1644
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:43,199
i mean there ain't nothing wrong with it

1645
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:45,920
i just for me uh

1646
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,440
i'm kind of

1647
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,679
when i'm bending i feel like i just it's

1648
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,520
it's too it feels too light for me i

1649
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,839
feel like i i have this muscle memory

1650
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,199
for tens where

1651
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:57,359
if i'm playing a show and i can barely

1652
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,520
hear myself cause i don't

1653
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:01,359
i don't like guitars in my monitors i

1654
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,880
just kind of have my amp so the second i

1655
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,239
walk away from my amp i can't really

1656
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,960
hear myself unless it's really cranking

1657
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:08,560
through the front of house so i have

1658
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,600
like this muscle memory for bending so i

1659
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,920
can't mess with that because it's if i

1660
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,600
bend out a tuning that's the thing that

1661
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:17,679
makes me more mad than anything if i if

1662
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,000
i play a run a little sloppy i'm like

1663
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,239
yeah whatever if i bend a string out of

1664
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,960
tune i'm i'm mad right right right man i

1665
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,799
love talking shop

1666
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,960
this is just a great night on the show

1667
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:30,640
now

1668
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:31,440
you

1669
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,799
uh now i could be wrong on this um

1670
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,040
but you don't use a whole lot of effects

1671
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,719
no i don't

1672
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,120
really generally like effects you know

1673
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,520
i'm i'll like the occasional like a

1674
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:45,600
little bit of delay or something i don't

1675
01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:47,759
like reverbs unless unless i'm in the

1676
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,120
studio and i'm doing like a cleaner

1677
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,199
sound but i don't like reverbs on my

1678
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:53,679
dirty sound i don't like

1679
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:56,480
chorus i don't like you don't tour with

1680
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,280
50 50 pedals no i i in fact i have a a

1681
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:03,600
product placement here i have a a

1682
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:05,440
i have a signature pedal with this

1683
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:08,560
company from uh romania called bikos

1684
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:11,440
effects and it's a it's an overdrive

1685
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:13,360
pedal and it's kind of like a a tube

1686
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:15,199
screamer like a ts808 or something are

1687
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,840
you talking about the zipper the zipper

1688
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:20,159
yes that's the one and i love that pedal

1689
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,920
and that's you know that's kind of all i

1690
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,280
need because i mean i kind of run

1691
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:25,760
through marshalls and my preferences

1692
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,679
marshall plexis and

1693
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:29,679
you know sometimes it needs just that

1694
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:31,840
little bit extra but i don't like a lot

1695
01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:34,719
of gain in my in my guitar so so hold on

1696
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,080
for a second here

1697
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:37,920
you're like the anti-guitar you're like

1698
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:40,560
the anti-shredder right now so you're

1699
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:41,600
saying

1700
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:44,880
live what is in front of the microphone

1701
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:48,080
stand a single overdrive pedal

1702
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:49,440
and a tuner

1703
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,800
that's so i have two pedals you know

1704
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,280
that's crazy town right yeah that's the

1705
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:55,440
that's you're you're the anti-guitar

1706
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:57,040
player these days

1707
01:11:04,550 --> 01:10:59,600
i'd like things to

1708
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,560
always go right not break um i don't i

1709
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,400
i just like a pure guitar sound i mean

1710
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,159
if i have an amp where i plug in and it

1711
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,520
sounds great i'm not even going to put

1712
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,199
anything in front of it but generally

1713
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:13,679
amps need a little bit more gain or or

1714
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:15,440
it needs it just purely i use it a lot

1715
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:17,360
of times just for kind of the cleaning

1716
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,480
up of

1717
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,320
the low end especially when you're

1718
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,199
playing live you know and i'm just not a

1719
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,679
huge fan of pedals except for my biko's

1720
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,159
effects overdrive pedal but yeah i just

1721
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,480
pedals are not really a huge deal for me

1722
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:32,880
i don't really i don't care now you can

1723
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,600
verify uh to everybody

1724
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:37,280
there's a freaking lot of gear in the

1725
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:39,760
studio isn't there a time there's a lot

1726
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,159
of stuff in here do you see any guitar

1727
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:43,760
pedals

1728
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,960
no no

1729
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:46,400
i i

1730
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:47,280
one

1731
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:50,960
into the into the amp

1732
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:53,600
and and i'm cool and and that's it i've

1733
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,800
always been that way i've i've just

1734
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:59,199
i never got sounds out of effects and i

1735
01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,560
know there's a lot of guitar players out

1736
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:02,000
there going what

1737
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,239
and and i get that i too if you know

1738
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:05,840
whatever floats your boat

1739
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:06,800
i

1740
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:13,840
just one knob

1741
01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:14,880
uh

1742
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,159
straight

1743
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:18,239
cable into the amp

1744
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:21,600
and uh a letter rip tater chip yeah man

1745
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,679
it's in your fingers dude like you don't

1746
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:25,440
need anything more i don't like anything

1747
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:27,520
more than a knob on my guitars i mean i

1748
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:28,320
just

1749
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:30,719
yeah like once again in the studio

1750
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,560
having a strat or something with tone

1751
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:34,000
knobs and stuff sure you know you can

1752
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:35,520
mess around with that but when i'm

1753
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,440
playing live dude it's like

1754
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,840
please just give me a hunk of wood and

1755
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:42,239
an amplifier and that's it

1756
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:46,719
and uh now how do you um uh plexis

1757
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:49,120
okay for those out there that are hip to

1758
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,920
the guitar talk um and then we jump into

1759
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,679
the plexi world

1760
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:56,080
this is a whole nother level of of of

1761
01:13:03,030 --> 01:12:58,719
gear talk okay um

1762
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:03,040
uh martial plexis are uh

1763
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:04,480
there's two versions there's new

1764
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:07,760
versions of it the original plexis

1765
01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:10,000
um were called plexis because of the

1766
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,199
faceplate

1767
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:13,760
um but the uh

1768
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:16,480
the deal with it is

1769
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:17,679
volume

1770
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:19,280
right the only

1771
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:22,000
way to get those to sing is to get the

1772
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:23,600
output tubes

1773
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,960
uh to produce your sound which means

1774
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:28,719
you really disturbed your parents and

1775
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:30,159
your neighbors

1776
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,040
right well luckily uh i i didn't get

1777
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,679
into plexis until i was living in my own

1778
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,679
house so my parents didn't have to deal

1779
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:39,920
with that but my neighbors sure did but

1780
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,320
but you know i i use uh a rivera um

1781
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:46,159
uh what do you call a rock crusher so

1782
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,440
it's an attenuator that you put in

1783
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,640
between so i can turn my amp up to 10

1784
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:52,480
and then take it down slightly

1785
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,320
accordingly i mean i have the rivera on

1786
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:56,640
as loud as it goes too but it's not as

1787
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:58,800
loud as just you know straight through

1788
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:01,920
the amp so and what about uh

1789
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:04,800
tradition uh the the the california

1790
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,600
version of the marshalls with a with a

1791
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,400
preamp section and a master volume

1792
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:12,400
uh did you

1793
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:14,080
get good tones out of that and do you

1794
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,520
use those today

1795
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,440
yeah the only ones that i really love

1796
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:19,920
that have master volumes on them are the

1797
01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:23,440
you know the late 70s jmps even before

1798
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:25,960
um i like jcm800s but even before

1799
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:29,040
jcm-800s are just i know that they're

1800
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,560
from what i understand they're like the

1801
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,280
same circuitry but they don't sound the

1802
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,360
same to me and and that comes with every

1803
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:37,120
marshall sounds different right like

1804
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,719
there's no two that sound exactly the

1805
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,199
same but i i'm cool with the late 70s

1806
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:43,040
ones with master volumes but even if i'm

1807
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,320
using that amp

1808
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:45,679
i'm still going to put an attenuator in

1809
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:46,719
between it because i'm still going to

1810
01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:49,120
crank the master volume to

1811
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:50,719
like two o'clock

1812
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:53,120
right right right so

1813
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:55,920
um in in the videos i wanted to ask you

1814
01:15:02,310 --> 01:14:59,440
about this this red marshall half stack

1815
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:02,320
um that is sitting there what is that uh

1816
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:05,920
77 jmp and how did you find it

1817
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:08,800
uh it's not mine actually it's it's my

1818
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:11,760
bass players but but

1819
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,560
i did find it in my defense it was on

1820
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:17,199
craigslist here in la and i already have

1821
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,760
so many amps and that guy was asking a

1822
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,159
great price for it so i'm like dude go

1823
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,000
buy this thing like it's it's a it's a

1824
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,719
it's a great investment so is that why i

1825
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,880
didn't notice in the video that amp is

1826
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:30,719
behind your bass player right because

1827
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:35,430
what was i doing in the video i had my

1828
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:37,760
friedman which i love friedman heads too

1829
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,040
you know and

1830
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:41,360
and uh dave friedman works on all my

1831
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:43,040
marshalls and

1832
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:46,560
he makes really amazing amps that i mean

1833
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,640
they're really similar to to playing a

1834
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,000
plexi it's just you don't need an

1835
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,159
attenuator and and don't need an

1836
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,159
overdrive pedal i mean the friedman amps

1837
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:55,679
i can just plug straight into it and

1838
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:56,480
that's

1839
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:57,600
the beauty

1840
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:00,080
of that amp so no

1841
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:03,280
no reverb though so you're dry dry yeah

1842
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,800
i mean you know it depends like

1843
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,360
sometimes when i play live i might put

1844
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:09,600
a delay pedal into

1845
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:11,440
my effects loop and just have it on

1846
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,840
where you just barely hear it at all

1847
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,679
whatsoever but it just

1848
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,760
does a little something you know i don't

1849
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:19,280
know it just

1850
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,679
it's it seems apropos to

1851
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:23,040
you know

1852
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,120
when i'm playing in rat to not have a

1853
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:27,280
guitar tone that's literally a hundred

1854
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,679
percent dry now uh

1855
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:31,199
i know everybody wants to hear this

1856
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,040
story you've probably told it a million

1857
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:35,760
times how did you get the rat gig

1858
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,630
i'm going to ask you that to tell you

1859
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,000
that story

1860
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:44,239
but rat also

1861
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,520
um is such a part of of rock and roll

1862
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,760
and rock and roll history and and what

1863
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,120
they meant

1864
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:53,679
uh i it i mean we all have that

1865
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:56,400
emotional rat story you know i mean i

1866
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:58,000
started crying the first time i saw him

1867
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:01,040
really i did man i lost it remember

1868
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,320
and uh okay here's a funny rat story

1869
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,040
piercy if you're listening

1870
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,199
you'll remember this so they're playing

1871
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,719
irvine meadows

1872
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,159
outdoor

1873
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:14,800
bon jovi is opening

1874
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:17,679
that's how big rat was okay

1875
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:19,440
bon jovi's opening

1876
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:21,520
and um

1877
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,800
and uh

1878
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:24,800
and we're there

1879
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,280
and i'm ready you know like bon jovi's

1880
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,440
got to get off the stage man this is

1881
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,600
just this is not doing it for me anyway

1882
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:33,920
so rat comes out

1883
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:37,120
and they open with lack of communication

1884
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,360
which is probably the one of the best

1885
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:41,199
opening guitar riffs in any song in the

1886
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:49,270
so they get like

1887
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:50,960
one bar

1888
01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:54,159
into lack of communication maybe two

1889
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:56,719
i've got tears coming down

1890
01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:00,000
and warn mar di martini and all of his

1891
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:01,360
majesty

1892
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,679
playing that riff

1893
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,920
and the power goes out in the city of

1894
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,199
irvine

1895
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:09,600
i'm sitting up on the top of the hill

1896
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:12,640
and i watch like chunk chunk these

1897
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,920
square blocks are going dark

1898
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:17,840
the band is still playing right and then

1899
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:20,000
all of a sudden

1900
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:22,719
power goes out at irvine meadows

1901
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,800
in the beginning of lack of

1902
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:26,800
communication

1903
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:29,440
that was like hilarious you've got to be

1904
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,000
kidding me and uh it took like two hours

1905
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,880
we stuck around uh two hours later uh

1906
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:36,719
the power came back on

1907
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:39,040
and uh the show continued but that's my

1908
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:42,000
rat story that's my rad story it appears

1909
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:43,440
he's ever gonna listen to this he's

1910
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:44,800
gonna go dude

1911
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,880
i remember that

1912
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:48,400
um so

1913
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,080
uh how did you

1914
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:52,239
were you a fan of rat before you got the

1915
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,719
gig did you know who the band was oh of

1916
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,480
course i mean if you're if you know what

1917
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:58,880
i'm saying that facetiously but were you

1918
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,520
into rat i was when i was in high school

1919
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:03,920
there was a period of time where

1920
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:07,280
uh you know back when we had cds i'm i'm

1921
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,440
aging myself right now there's not a cd

1922
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:11,120
in this studio either

1923
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,840
so

1924
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:12,960
uh

1925
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:14,800
it's funny just joke about that but i'm

1926
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:17,120
like really young still but i still was

1927
01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:19,199
the generation or we still had to have

1928
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:21,120
something physical to listen to what we

1929
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:24,400
want to listen to so anyways uh i had

1930
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:25,360
rat

1931
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,679
one greatest hit record and that was in

1932
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:29,360
my car and that was in my car for months

1933
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:30,960
so yeah i definitely had a period of

1934
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:33,520
time where i was super into the band

1935
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:35,040
and uh

1936
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,560
learning their stuff

1937
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:38,800
yeah i mean honestly it's funny i really

1938
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:41,600
didn't i played a couple of their songs

1939
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,280
because i played in cover bands over the

1940
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:45,199
year but i didn't really like sit and

1941
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,120
like learn all their music you know i

1942
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:49,120
really barely knew how to play any of it

1943
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:50,480
when uh

1944
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:52,800
i was asked to come audition which just

1945
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:54,560
through a mutual friend who was really

1946
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,840
good friends with steven was like oh

1947
01:20:02,470 --> 01:19:59,760
i know the guy for you you know and and

1948
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:02,480
then they contacted me and was there a

1949
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:05,600
long line of guitar players

1950
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,000
i don't remember how many people they

1951
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,080
auditioned because it was like we went

1952
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:12,719
over to juan's house because he has a

1953
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:14,400
studio there and we all kind of jammed

1954
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:16,320
over there but like i don't i couldn't

1955
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:17,920
even tell you how many people there was

1956
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,840
you know someone leaving

1957
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,000
when i got there so i know i know they

1958
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,159
auditioned probably around 20 guitar

1959
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:26,480
players for sure the gig i think

1960
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,440
um

1961
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:29,760
but yeah and and i i just you know i

1962
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:32,480
think i i learned like four five of

1963
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:34,560
their songs in a couple days and you

1964
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,159
know i was still living in arizona at

1965
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:38,320
the time so i came to

1966
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:41,679
did you get the nod at the audition did

1967
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:43,199
they go okay we're gonna stop we're

1968
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:44,880
gonna stop auditioning now you're the

1969
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:47,679
cat it's funny because you know

1970
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,960
they were trying to be super

1971
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:50,880
professional about it right like i mean

1972
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,400
come on like we're all like we're just

1973
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,639
dudes we're bros so uh you know i went

1974
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:56,320
in and we started jamming and i would

1975
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:58,239
say

1976
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:00,080
you know and also it's funny because we

1977
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:01,600
were tying out pedals and all that stuff

1978
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,159
uh everyone that went there

1979
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:06,400
not knocking anyone it's just not my

1980
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,719
thing but everyone had this pedalboard

1981
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:11,280
or they brought their amp or whatever

1982
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,760
and i walked in there with a guitar with

1983
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:15,600
my hello kitty guitar

1984
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,679
my purple one with a big pink hello

1985
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:19,760
kitty sticker on it and just plugged

1986
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:22,239
straight into the amp and we played in

1987
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:23,440
literally

1988
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:25,520
30 seconds and we're all looking at each

1989
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:26,800
other like

1990
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:29,679
dude like this is a vibe okay so now

1991
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,760
let's get into the metaphysical aspect

1992
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:33,040
of this

1993
01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:34,239
um

1994
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:35,440
uh

1995
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,600
going back to high school right

1996
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:39,280
rad albums

1997
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,000
did you have any premonition any deja vu

1998
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:43,679
anything in your

1999
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:46,480
one day i'm going to play in this band

2000
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:48,639
honestly no

2001
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,520
i never thought i would play in any band

2002
01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:53,520
uh from the 80s because i just thought

2003
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,280
you know

2004
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:58,239
i'm too young like it just wouldn't make

2005
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,080
sense you know and and you know you

2006
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:01,920
never know how long people want to tour

2007
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:03,600
and all that stuff so

2008
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,600
no it was never even a thought for me

2009
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:07,360
that i would play in

2010
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:09,520
you know with or marty friedman like

2011
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:10,960
just none of that stuff was really a

2012
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:13,520
thought to me to be perfectly honest now

2013
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,639
what's it uh there's got to be

2014
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,360
you can be honest okay yeah there's got

2015
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:21,920
to be something in the back of your mind

2016
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,360
going okay

2017
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:25,040
holy crap

2018
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:26,960
uh an icon

2019
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,040
like warren d martini

2020
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:31,920
um and robin crosby two you know and the

2021
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,440
songs right the foundation of this band

2022
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:37,520
i'm coming in

2023
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,880
and

2024
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:41,280
the fans

2025
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:43,040
may not dig me

2026
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:43,840
and

2027
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:49,600
includes me right

2028
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,639
so

2029
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:53,120
that was that in the back of your mind

2030
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:55,600
of course but you know

2031
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:58,800
at the same time i knew that no matter

2032
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,920
what i did no matter what i did

2033
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:03,840
most of those people were still not

2034
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:06,400
gonna accept me right you know so for me

2035
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:08,080
it's like i don't

2036
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:09,040
really

2037
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:11,120
care about that because those people

2038
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:14,159
will never care about me anyways and the

2039
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:15,840
fact of the matter is right like you go

2040
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,280
into a band

2041
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:19,360
i'm taking over a position for someone

2042
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:22,480
who i highly respect and other people

2043
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:24,880
highly respect him and all i can do

2044
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:28,239
is be the best that i can be and hope

2045
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:30,159
that people go

2046
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:32,159
good on you mate right you know that's

2047
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:34,400
right that's it and and i think part of

2048
01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:37,760
it was my reasoning in my head of

2049
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,920
i'm gonna continue playing

2050
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:42,239
the purple charvel

2051
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:44,320
with the pink hello kitty sticker on it

2052
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:45,520
because i knew

2053
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,840
that that was just that extra layer of

2054
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:50,719
who

2055
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,120
is this guy like what what is he

2056
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:55,440
thinking he obviously doesn't give a

2057
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,000
crap about us not

2058
01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:00,639
seeing warren d martini tonight right

2059
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:03,199
right but i but i do in a fan sense of

2060
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:06,000
like sure like i'm sorry it's like i'm

2061
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:07,920
sorry like it's just it is what it is

2062
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:09,920
like it's all it's our just business

2063
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:12,560
right like it's it's in and passion of

2064
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,159
course but i'm just saying it's business

2065
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,239
like i'm going to play for this band

2066
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:18,880
this band has to do this to continue and

2067
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:20,480
it just is what it is and the people

2068
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:21,840
that hate it

2069
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,440
are gonna hate it

2070
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:25,920
you know no matter what we do now okay

2071
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:28,639
now there is uh

2072
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,440
another aspect to this which uh from one

2073
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,360
guitar player to another

2074
01:24:38,629 --> 01:24:35,280
um the fans

2075
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:38,639
are expecting certain things in certain

2076
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:41,920
songs to 100 percent be there

2077
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,960
and then

2078
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:44,800
so you need to play whatever it is you

2079
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:46,960
know the harmony section of round and

2080
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,800
round or whatever it is

2081
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,120
um and you need to do that and i'm sure

2082
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:53,440
that you do and you respect the song

2083
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:54,800
yeah but then

2084
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:55,679
do you

2085
01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:01,120
points and and and just be jordan for

2086
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,440
sure i do that because at the end of the

2087
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:04,960
day you know

2088
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:07,920
i want to pay as much respect as i can

2089
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:11,280
because it's it's i i respect the the

2090
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,880
art that that is rat right so i want to

2091
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:17,280
do things where it's very much in the

2092
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:20,639
ballpark of what it is but you know you

2093
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:23,760
have to look at it too like

2094
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:27,120
not everyone plays their instrument or

2095
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:28,560
let's just talk about guitar since we're

2096
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:30,480
talking about guitars not everyone plays

2097
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:31,679
guitar

2098
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:34,400
the same there's so much variance of how

2099
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:36,000
people pick how people do this how

2100
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:37,600
people do that so at the end of the day

2101
01:25:42,790 --> 01:25:39,679
i know that if i

2102
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:42,800
played warren d martini solos exactly

2103
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:44,320
note for note

2104
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,600
it's not

2105
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:48,000
a hundred percent in my comfort zone

2106
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:49,600
because there's things that everyone

2107
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,360
does differently so at the end of the

2108
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:53,679
day if you play something and it sounds

2109
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:55,920
really close to the original but you're

2110
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:58,239
super comfortable playing it that's the

2111
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,080
goal like that's what you want to do you

2112
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:01,840
want to sound like

2113
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,760
uh

2114
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:05,520
not not to be like i wrote it you want

2115
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:07,840
to you want people in the audience

2116
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:09,920
in their perspective to go this guy

2117
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:12,080
plays it like he wrote it because i'm

2118
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:14,080
not playing the exact same thing i'm

2119
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,440
playing stuff that's like comfortable

2120
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:17,360
for me

2121
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:20,639
did you before we head to the break

2122
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:24,400
there is on the web uh there's robin

2123
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,760
crosby's isolated rhythm tracks

2124
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:29,600
to round and round have you listened to

2125
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,400
that i think i did years ago but i don't

2126
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:34,800
remember much about it go go back and

2127
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:37,920
listen to it yeah uh go back because it

2128
01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:38,960
is

2129
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,400
masterful

2130
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:42,239
right and and think about it you know

2131
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:43,760
not digital

2132
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:46,159
there's no auto tune there's you know

2133
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:48,960
that is two inch tape

2134
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:52,560
and uh and how amazing

2135
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:55,360
that uh that song was written and and

2136
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:57,280
and how it was played it's it's

2137
01:27:02,229 --> 01:26:59,840
incredible did you go back and

2138
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,239
that is a rhythm track

2139
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,960
that everybody knows right you can't

2140
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:06,880
step out of bounds with that of course

2141
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,120
and and like you know to be clear like i

2142
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,199
don't want to step out of bounds it's

2143
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:13,920
just that there's moments where

2144
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:14,880
live

2145
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:17,520
we extend songs and stuff like that and

2146
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,679
warren just played whatever the hell he

2147
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:22,159
wanted to do live so

2148
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,600
is it doesn't that mean that's probably

2149
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:25,440
what i should do and not and not go let

2150
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,080
me look at what warren played live

2151
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:30,159
and try like it's like that makes no

2152
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:31,679
sense you know so it's just there's

2153
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:33,920
there's always that leeway when you go

2154
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:36,480
into someone else's band to to to do

2155
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:38,400
things a little bit differently you know

2156
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,440
have you have you uh have you met warren

2157
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:43,679
i met him

2158
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:46,480
after the band or before twice before i

2159
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:50,639
was in the band but it was it was uh

2160
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:53,040
it was very brief and just like hanging

2161
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:54,800
out and mutual friends and out of show

2162
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:57,120
and like hey like i'm sure he doesn't

2163
01:28:02,070 --> 01:27:58,960
even remember meeting me he's a really

2164
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:02,080
cool dude yeah so um but but not after

2165
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,760
you've been in the band not after i've

2166
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,440
been in there you know like you're doing

2167
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,600
good kid yeah no and you haven't gotten

2168
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:09,360
that yet and i wouldn't

2169
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,199
i wouldn't expect that to be honest i

2170
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,080
mean maybe like maybe uh it's just that

2171
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:16,000
it's

2172
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:18,080
playing in someone else's gig is a is a

2173
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,239
weird thing yes it is it is it is what

2174
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,000
it is let's take our break when we come

2175
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:24,400
back uh we're going to talk ufos

2176
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:26,080
that's right this is fade to black i'm

2177
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:27,440
your host jimmy church live in the

2178
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,480
studio right here jordan zip um hey

2179
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:32,480
jordan during the break i want you to go

2180
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,760
get that hello

2181
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,679
hello kitty guitar let's show that to

2182
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,440
everybody sounds good we'll be right

2183
01:28:45,740 --> 01:28:39,920
back stay with us

2184
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:56,310
[Music]

2185
01:29:01,610 --> 01:28:59,430
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2186
01:29:04,229 --> 01:29:01,620
you're listening to fade to black

2187
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:04,239
[Applause]

2188
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,400
you're listening to jimmy church and

2189
01:29:12,970 --> 01:29:07,920
fade to black

2190
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:15,110
[Applause]

2191
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:27,270
this is jimmy church jason martell's

2192
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,360
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2193
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,159
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2194
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:34,159
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2195
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:36,560
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2196
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,719
say their gods came from across the

2197
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:41,199
ocean or from the mountains they always

2198
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:43,840
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2199
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:46,639
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2200
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[Music]

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01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:21,030
welcome back fade to black i'm really

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church tonight jordan ziff is with us

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01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:31,510
tomorrow night jason quinn is here

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conspiracy eight wednesday night of

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01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,600
course tony and sheree rathman are here

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for ghost hunting but tonight it's ufos

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and guitars

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01:33:42,310 --> 01:33:40,560
and uh jordan right before the break i

2269
01:33:44,470 --> 01:33:42,320
ask you to go get the hello kitty kitty

2270
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:44,480
guitar let me see let me see this thing

2271
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:46,960
i will hand it to you and uh check this

2272
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:48,400
out i'm just gonna hold this up to the

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01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:50,400
camera this is it there's the hello

2274
01:33:52,870 --> 01:33:51,679
kitty

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01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:52,880
and uh

2276
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:57,120
this is gor the the color blue this is

2277
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,800
i just dinged jordan's guitar

2278
01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:02,080
don't worry about it man it sounds

2279
01:34:07,189 --> 01:34:04,400
better now i have a i have a friend

2280
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:07,199
that's a a painter he can take that nick

2281
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:09,040
right out he can buff it out

2282
01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:16,149
this is a charvel um telly

2283
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,280
and uh

2284
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,120
just how did you figure out this color

2285
01:34:23,830 --> 01:34:21,520
blue i don't have a blue guitar

2286
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:23,840
you know it's funny uh i've never had a

2287
01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:25,120
blue guitar

2288
01:34:28,870 --> 01:34:26,320
and

2289
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:28,880
i growing up i never liked the color

2290
01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:31,199
blue right and one day i just started

2291
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,280
liking the color blue and i was like i

2292
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:34,800
just want to have a blue guitar because

2293
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:36,159
i've never had a blue guitar and i

2294
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:37,120
thought that

2295
01:34:40,229 --> 01:34:38,000
uh

2296
01:34:41,990 --> 01:34:40,239
you know a telly would look really cool

2297
01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:42,000
in blue sparkle

2298
01:34:45,109 --> 01:34:43,440
and uh

2299
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:45,119
it's such a statement

2300
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:47,440
and you chose to go with humbucker right

2301
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:49,679
take out the tele signal coil of course

2302
01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:52,719
yeah cause i mean single coil is not

2303
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:54,880
particularly my vibe all the time maybe

2304
01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:56,400
on the neck position but not on the

2305
01:35:00,629 --> 01:34:58,960
bridge it's too uh it's too twangy for

2306
01:35:02,950 --> 01:35:00,639
for my sound

2307
01:35:05,510 --> 01:35:02,960
and you know that that guitar you know

2308
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,520
what lean that over against the table

2309
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:06,960
in the corner

2310
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:09,280
yeah i feel a little safer with that oh

2311
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:10,000
yeah

2312
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:12,320
if you want though you can hang it uh up

2313
01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:14,159
there and maybe you'll forget it when

2314
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:16,080
you you know after the show

2315
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:18,159
is um uh

2316
01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:19,280
the

2317
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:25,360
thing is it

2318
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:26,800
um is it

2319
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:29,679
it's becomes such a part of you

2320
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:32,159
right it's an identifiable

2321
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:34,880
thing now so are you are you now a telly

2322
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:35,679
guy

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01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:39,040
uh honestly man it's very hard for me to

2324
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,400
commit to any type of particular guitar

2325
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:44,320
shape because i really just have a love

2326
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:45,360
for

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01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:47,679
everything but yeah i mean dude i really

2328
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:49,760
love this telly and i love tellies and i

2329
01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:52,000
think they look cool but i i mean who

2330
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:53,920
knows dude i i could play something

2331
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:56,480
completely different you know

2332
01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:58,960
tomorrow i have no idea but but i love

2333
01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:01,119
you know charvels and jackson so i'll

2334
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:02,719
always be

2335
01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:04,320
kind of designing something with them

2336
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:06,800
that might be a little bit different

2337
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:08,000
are you gonna

2338
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:09,280
continue oh

2339
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:10,960
i see what you're saying it wouldn't

2340
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:12,880
necessarily be a telly the next time

2341
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,480
around yeah it won't necessarily be a

2342
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:16,880
telly the next time around now in uh the

2343
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:20,560
hot crazy uh videos uh you're playing uh

2344
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:22,560
a randy rhodes you're playing a jackson

2345
01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:24,480
right in manly and heels yeah manly in

2346
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:26,719
heels yeah so that rhodes has a you know

2347
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:29,199
i got that guitar

2348
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,760
i think i was 15 years old

2349
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:34,000
and uh it was black and had black

2350
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:36,560
hardware and you know it's a usa road so

2351
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:39,199
you know great guitar and i just brought

2352
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:42,159
it on tour with me everywhere and i just

2353
01:36:45,830 --> 01:36:44,080
it just looked like trash by the time i

2354
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,840
was done with it and it's it's it it was

2355
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:47,520
sitting in a case for a few years and i

2356
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,480
was like

2357
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:50,400
this would be a really cool guitar for

2358
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:53,440
hot crazy so i took it to a friend and

2359
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,520
and they stripped off all the paint they

2360
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:57,280
fixed the wood chunks that were missing

2361
01:37:02,550 --> 01:36:59,760
from it and uh you know routed it out

2362
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,560
for a middle humbucker and i put like oh

2363
01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:04,159
that's right there's that's a triple

2364
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:06,960
yeah yeah i put three gold you know

2365
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,520
paf's in there and a gold floyd rose and

2366
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:11,440
it's like a rainbow sparkle color and

2367
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:13,520
it's like it's a cool guitar this is the

2368
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:16,800
hot crazy roads now um a

2369
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,440
one-time offer okay i'm just to put this

2370
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:21,440
on the table right now

2371
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,080
you pick any guitar in here

2372
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:25,840
and let's just swap let's trade for the

2373
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:27,360
telly right now

2374
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:28,719
any guitar

2375
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:31,760
this guitar is too uh going to be of too

2376
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,000
much historical significance for myself

2377
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:36,239
when i'm older uh

2378
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:37,679
and i

2379
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:39,600
pick i'll i'll even sign one of these

2380
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:41,199
guitars

2381
01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:43,119
i'll i'll have to think about it okay

2382
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:44,480
we'll have to do it under the table

2383
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:46,960
though okay so so i don't get in trouble

2384
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:49,520
for trading a guitar from uh you know

2385
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:51,119
from char valley right

2386
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:53,119
so the door's not closed

2387
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,480
no no it's not closed it's not closed um

2388
01:38:00,870 --> 01:37:58,560
because i have that uh randy rhodes

2389
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:00,880
minion yeah you could yeah that's

2390
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:03,760
perfect for me because i'm so tiny

2391
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:06,159
how did you uh before we get to the ufos

2392
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,360
uh just

2393
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:09,600
how did you find uh

2394
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:12,159
lead singers are tough bass players are

2395
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:13,760
even tougher

2396
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:16,800
and maybe even the right drummer is

2397
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:18,960
tougher than that

2398
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,360
you know and it and when you get the

2399
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:24,159
right guys you you hang on to them yeah

2400
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:28,000
let's start with carl um uh your singer

2401
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:29,199
uh

2402
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:31,840
i mean just an incredible voice with

2403
01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:34,159
stage presence yeah and nobody wears

2404
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:37,119
shorts uh quite like carl he's very sexy

2405
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:39,360
and short yes he's very sexy in shorts

2406
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:40,960
um

2407
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,679
you know he's the complete package but

2408
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,360
finding somebody like that is nearly

2409
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:47,600
impossible how did you find carl yeah so

2410
01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:50,639
i i went on craigslist and i and i put

2411
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,520
up an ad and said mediocre guitar player

2412
01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:56,239
looking for mediocre singer for pretty

2413
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:57,440
cool band

2414
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:58,400
and then he

2415
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:00,400
you know hit no i'm totally kidding none

2416
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:03,360
of that happened uh

2417
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:05,360
so it actually all kind of starts with

2418
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,679
robbie my bass player because i grew up

2419
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:09,440
with robbie we've known each other since

2420
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:10,480
uh

2421
01:39:13,189 --> 01:39:11,600
um

2422
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,199
i guess since i was a freshman in high

2423
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,840
school he's a year younger than me um so

2424
01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:17,760
during quarantine

2425
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:19,280
he's the one who i was kind of hanging

2426
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:21,520
out with every day and i'm i was like

2427
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:24,000
dude i'm like it's time for this band

2428
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,679
thing to happen that this band thing

2429
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,800
that i've been thinking of for a really

2430
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,520
long time and this was in los angeles

2431
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:31,360
this was in arizona actually oh it said

2432
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:34,239
i moved to los angeles in the midst of

2433
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:36,560
quarantine and uh

2434
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,800
i asked my friend robbie i was like do

2435
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:40,400
you know any really cool singers that

2436
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:42,400
live in l.a he's like yeah i used to

2437
01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:44,480
work with this dude at a you know they

2438
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:47,280
both servers at a restaurant and uh i

2439
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:50,239
went on carl's fa instagram straight up

2440
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:51,840
straight up yeah straight up that's how

2441
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,679
this band happened and and it's even

2442
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:55,840
better because robbie you know had his

2443
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:57,199
own band called

2444
01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,040
farewell my love and he's the guitar

2445
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:01,600
player in the band and stuff and and and

2446
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,000
when this band started i'm like yeah but

2447
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:05,360
you know this

2448
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:07,280
this band needs to be one guitar player

2449
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:10,560
because i just like the the idea of

2450
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,119
of the the the queen thing yes or the

2451
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:16,320
beatles like i like just like van halen

2452
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:17,840
yeah yeah of course queen came to my

2453
01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:20,639
mind but but yeah i love i love that and

2454
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,639
and so he he's like totally cool with

2455
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:24,480
playing bass and and bass is a very

2456
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:26,159
important instrument in this band too

2457
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,760
because because there's a lot of cool

2458
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:29,600
bass lines happening that you know

2459
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:32,000
wouldn't necessarily be in like a

2460
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:34,320
harder rock type of band you know so

2461
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:36,320
it's it's pretty cool so he he loves

2462
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:37,679
doing the bass in this band but yeah i

2463
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,280
mean it literally happened to me saying

2464
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,440
yeah do you know any cool singers and

2465
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,280
he told me about carl and i went on

2466
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:45,360
instagram and looked at him and was like

2467
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:47,920
he looks cool he sounds great

2468
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,600
i want to meet him so you know we had a

2469
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:51,920
party and we all hung out and just like

2470
01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:52,800
you know

2471
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:54,960
it was it got crazy but like we because

2472
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:58,159
he oh okay okay look man i'm not gonna

2473
01:41:03,109 --> 01:40:59,679
i'm not gonna hold back

2474
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,119
is he was he as flamboyant

2475
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:05,119
in person

2476
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,159
as

2477
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:08,159
he is

2478
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:10,239
with his stage presence

2479
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,760
let's just say

2480
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:13,679
the first time i met him

2481
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:16,560
he was wearing a sparkly outfit with

2482
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,280
sparkle high heels

2483
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:21,280
so you knew out of the gate yeah right

2484
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,080
this is the guy yeah that's just who he

2485
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:26,480
is yeah that's awesome yeah he's so

2486
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:29,760
great and uh so you know kind of and and

2487
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:32,719
he he was you know doing kind of more

2488
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,600
pop stuff so being in a rock band i

2489
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,040
don't want to speak for him but i don't

2490
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,800
know if i don't know if that ever

2491
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:40,320
crossed his mind

2492
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,159
you know to be in a rock band this is

2493
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:44,560
certainly his first rock band so it's

2494
01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:46,320
just it's a very interesting type of

2495
01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:50,000
situation it's not normal at all to to

2496
01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:50,320
to

2497
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:51,520
[Music]

2498
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:52,480
find

2499
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:55,600
a bandmate like that well he okay uh

2500
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:56,800
before i

2501
01:41:59,830 --> 01:41:58,159
you just said that you grew up with

2502
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:59,840
robbie but i want to talk about him in a

2503
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:02,480
second the thing about carl

2504
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,520
um

2505
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:05,679
it it it appears that he can sing

2506
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:07,119
whatever

2507
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,320
he wants to yeah right he's got uh the

2508
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:12,320
pure rock and roll i'm gonna say he's

2509
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,280
got a

2510
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,480
a d.o grand bonnet tone thing where if

2511
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:18,800
he needed to go into that zone

2512
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:22,880
um almost lou graham ish right yeah yeah

2513
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:24,480
yeah i'd say he's more like in that

2514
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,400
realm because because carl's voice is a

2515
01:42:31,109 --> 01:42:28,800
bit cleaner you know and then then

2516
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:31,119
there's the other stuff yeah right where

2517
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:34,639
he is obviously got a tremendous amount

2518
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:38,159
of range yeah and he can go into this

2519
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:41,840
this other clean pure harmonic world

2520
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,639
yeah yeah it's beautiful it's it's

2521
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:46,320
uh i have to say that it's such a

2522
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:48,719
pleasure to work with him because

2523
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:51,360
i've never worked with a singer that's

2524
01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:53,760
in that realm at all whatsoever you know

2525
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:54,560
well

2526
01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:57,119
so uh a little uh

2527
01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:59,360
so i'm talking to jordan last week

2528
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:01,040
and he says uh you know carl's coming

2529
01:43:04,390 --> 01:43:02,080
over we're gonna be doing some

2530
01:43:06,070 --> 01:43:04,400
background vocals today

2531
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:06,080
and so we talked the next day and i

2532
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:07,920
asked you straight up i said so man is

2533
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:10,000
he a one-take jake or is he a prima

2534
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:11,920
donna you got to work with this guy and

2535
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:13,920
he said no he's wonderful in the studio

2536
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:16,000
yeah yeah he's just goes in and does it

2537
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:18,320
and then that's it man

2538
01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:20,159
rare

2539
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:22,000
it's about you know in this pro tools

2540
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:24,880
world that we live in where singers want

2541
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:26,800
to punch syllables

2542
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:28,880
oh yeah big time i mean get guitar

2543
01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:31,360
players that's not even good on guitar

2544
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:31,780
players

2545
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:33,119
[Laughter]

2546
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:35,600
it's the truth right yeah

2547
01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:36,560
and

2548
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,480
now um because of of who you are now

2549
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:42,400
you're the principal songwriter in the

2550
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:45,600
band i'm the principal songwriter but we

2551
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:46,480
all

2552
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,880
there's not a single song where it's

2553
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:53,520
just me really like yeah i do a lot of

2554
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:55,119
the instrumental

2555
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:58,639
of the songs and and uh i'd say a lot of

2556
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,440
the melodies but not everything and we

2557
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:03,360
all when we write lyrics for this band

2558
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:05,440
we all sit in a room together first we

2559
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:06,400
talk about

2560
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:08,800
what is the song about then as we're

2561
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:10,400
writing the lyrics for it we talk about

2562
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:13,119
the music video for it as if

2563
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,440
we're going to make a music video for

2564
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,360
every single song that we do while we

2565
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:19,280
write the lyrics we're trying to build a

2566
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:22,080
scene almost like a movie

2567
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:22,800
and

2568
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:25,920
it's been very magical because honestly

2569
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,520
growing up i was never comfortable

2570
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:29,280
writing lyrics for bands because i just

2571
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:31,600
didn't think they were good enough but

2572
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,360
it really just comes down to the mindset

2573
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:35,440
about it and i think that our process is

2574
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,320
just

2575
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:37,520
um

2576
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,960
interesting the way that we all sit

2577
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:40,239
together and all three of us write

2578
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:41,920
together so that we get the best lines

2579
01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:43,600
possible there's no there's no one

2580
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:45,440
person writes a line and he goes this is

2581
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,600
the line even if like two of us disagree

2582
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,840
it's very like no no

2583
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,520
i get what you're saying but i think we

2584
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:53,520
can do something better with that line

2585
01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:55,600
and it's just interesting to to write

2586
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:57,280
lyrics like that i've never done it and

2587
01:45:01,910 --> 01:44:59,119
and i can say that i've written some

2588
01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:01,920
really great lyrics that i'm very proud

2589
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:04,000
of and i've never done that in my life

2590
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:05,360
and i'm very

2591
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:06,239
uh

2592
01:45:10,149 --> 01:45:07,679
i'm very happy about that because it's

2593
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:10,159
something that i i did i knew i could

2594
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:11,360
write music i knew i could write

2595
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:13,119
melodies i knew i could do some

2596
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:15,040
phrasings and things but lyrics have

2597
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,560
never been a strong suit for me but i

2598
01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:17,760
actually feel pretty comfortable with

2599
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:20,560
that you know process now now what about

2600
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:22,719
uh uh are you

2601
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:26,159
the the approach to recording as a band

2602
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:27,600
yeah how are you

2603
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,560
going to uh uh deal with that

2604
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:33,040
as far as like our process for doing it

2605
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:34,800
yeah are you gonna

2606
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:36,480
all play live

2607
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:38,960
or no no we do everything separately we

2608
01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:40,639
have our drummer go and do his drum

2609
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:42,800
parts and then i do the guitar parts and

2610
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:43,760
then

2611
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,040
know i leave a little bit

2612
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:48,560
so that i can do it later after the

2613
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:49,840
vocals and everything are done are you

2614
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:51,600
doing a scratch guitar track with the

2615
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:53,840
drummer yeah i mean we have demos for

2616
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,920
all of our songs and we haven't changed

2617
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:57,600
the tempos of any of them so all the

2618
01:46:03,030 --> 01:45:59,920
scratch tracks are already there but but

2619
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,040
our drummer jake is is uh amazing he's

2620
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:06,239
like a one take drummer dude like our

2621
01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:08,960
songs that we're recording there's no

2622
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:10,880
samples there's no there's not even

2623
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,400
really editing

2624
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,480
and it sounds

2625
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:16,639
almost like samples and and he's just

2626
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:18,719
really that good and i'm just

2627
01:46:22,709 --> 01:46:20,880
i'm really grateful to be

2628
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:22,719
playing with a band that's just like

2629
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:24,800
this is the real deal i mean we do

2630
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:28,400
everything analog we we not to tape but

2631
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:31,119
we do everything analog and we mic amps

2632
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:33,600
and we do real drums without any drum

2633
01:46:38,310 --> 01:46:36,159
samples and we don't tune the vocals you

2634
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,320
know all that stuff is is everything you

2635
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,119
hear is rock and roll what we did that

2636
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:43,760
day right right now uh

2637
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:46,719
uh i want to talk about robbie because

2638
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:49,280
um and robbie's gonna hear this later

2639
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:50,960
maybe he's listening now

2640
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:53,360
but i said something to you that i think

2641
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:55,520
describes him perfectly

2642
01:46:59,430 --> 01:46:57,600
which is this

2643
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,440
he's got image

2644
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,679
right he's got a thing going on you know

2645
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:03,920
and the whole band does

2646
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:05,760
and then there's

2647
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:08,719
robbie yeah that's magic man he's got an

2648
01:47:13,470 --> 01:47:11,679
image yeah he's great he's he

2649
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:13,480
he looks like such a thing

2650
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:17,440
[Laughter]

2651
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:20,560
i hope he's laughing right now yeah uh

2652
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,840
but but the band is uh it's it's it's

2653
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:25,199
nearly perfect

2654
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:28,320
now um and before we move on and you

2655
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:30,159
know it's ufos uh for the rest of the

2656
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:30,960
night

2657
01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:34,000
um you have the best of both worlds now

2658
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,360
though you've got

2659
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:37,679
uh musically um

2660
01:47:42,950 --> 01:47:40,639
the opportunity to play with uh such

2661
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:42,960
great musicians and you can do whatever

2662
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,679
you want right okay so you've got that

2663
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:47,280
and then you've got

2664
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:49,280
the image

2665
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:51,199
there too as well

2666
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:54,000
where the two this doesn't happen that

2667
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:55,600
often where

2668
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,679
um everything is happening at the same

2669
01:48:02,229 --> 01:47:59,520
time for a change

2670
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:02,239
yeah it's it's it's yeah it's it's

2671
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:03,119
really

2672
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:04,960
for me it's very profound for something

2673
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:06,480
like this to happen because this is

2674
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:09,040
something that i've always wanted and

2675
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:11,440
it's in the midst of of do you know it's

2676
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,679
moving forward and it's funny you say

2677
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,520
that because so many people that are

2678
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:17,679
musician friends of mine are like

2679
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:19,840
you're doing all of the things the the

2680
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,760
look the the music that

2681
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,520
you know and and it's it's really it

2682
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,440
makes me feel really good like like

2683
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:27,920
everyone's excited about it

2684
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:31,119
it's it's uh as as a musician myself

2685
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,360
that's everybody's dream

2686
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:36,320
is to have you know the right musicians

2687
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:38,080
but then of course

2688
01:48:43,990 --> 01:48:40,159
you know the stage presence and and the

2689
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:44,000
show to go along with it i i i often

2690
01:48:49,270 --> 01:48:46,719
i'll say this before we move on

2691
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:49,280
when i remember

2692
01:48:54,629 --> 01:48:52,080
listening this is no joke listening to

2693
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:54,639
queen heard something on the radio

2694
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:57,920
um and i you know and then

2695
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:01,280
i see the album cover and i was like

2696
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:03,679
these guys look like th but they're

2697
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:05,360
playing like this

2698
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:07,520
how perfect is that

2699
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:09,679
right wait a minute here

2700
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:12,239
they care about their image right right

2701
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:15,280
right there's a thing going on but yet

2702
01:49:19,990 --> 01:49:17,599
the the songs are

2703
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,000
angelic right they're perfect

2704
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:22,639
right and and that's that's the gift

2705
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:24,080
that you guys have right now i

2706
01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:27,040
appreciate that so much that means a lot

2707
01:49:31,510 --> 01:49:28,639
let's uh let's move on let's talk about

2708
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:31,520
ufos let's talk about ufos

2709
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:32,560
um

2710
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:37,440
i think that there's a strange thing uh

2711
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,239
with

2712
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:40,400
musicians artists creative people

2713
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:43,679
sculptors painters that their

2714
01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:45,119
mind

2715
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,639
is a open but b you have the ability to

2716
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:51,199
go into the zone right you practice for

2717
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:53,360
eight hours you go to this weird place

2718
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,199
that most people don't ever understand

2719
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:57,520
or get a chance to go to

2720
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:00,960
um but i think that also invites in

2721
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,760
other things too as well i've had many

2722
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:05,599
musicians on the show

2723
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,880
that have all had the crazy ufo stuff

2724
01:50:12,940 --> 01:50:11,199
and and so i

2725
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:12,950
um i want you to share

2726
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:14,159
[Music]

2727
01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:15,040
uh

2728
01:50:19,589 --> 01:50:18,000
your your sighting and how old were you

2729
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:19,599
uh when this happened this was in

2730
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:22,159
arizona yeah this was uh

2731
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:24,560
yeah this was in arizona i think i was

2732
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:29,990
i was probably 14.

2733
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:34,480
i went outside and it was probably two

2734
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,760
in the morning i don't know what i was

2735
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,360
doing i was probably doing something bad

2736
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:39,360
at that time when i was 14 you know like

2737
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:40,560
drinking with friends or something like

2738
01:50:42,790 --> 01:50:41,520
that but

2739
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:42,800
earlier that night that's why i was up

2740
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:45,360
that late but i went outside and and

2741
01:50:48,629 --> 01:50:46,639
only like

2742
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,639
i don't i i'm not very good at

2743
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:50,320
estimating how many feet something was

2744
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:52,480
above the air but but anyway this is

2745
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:54,800
phoenix this is in phoenix what part of

2746
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:56,800
phoenix uh north scottsdale north

2747
01:51:02,070 --> 01:50:59,119
scottsdale behind camelback mountain

2748
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:02,080
right okay right and i see this thing in

2749
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:04,000
the sky and and i you know kind of

2750
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:05,360
didn't look at it for you know i just

2751
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:06,880
kind of was scanning the sky i didn't

2752
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,320
really notice it that much but then i

2753
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,400
looked back and i'm like whoa

2754
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,719
this thing is just floating there and it

2755
01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:14,400
was far enough away where i couldn't

2756
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:16,239
tell you the exact shape because it was

2757
01:51:19,830 --> 01:51:17,440
more like

2758
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:19,840
lights that i was seeing but it wasn't

2759
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,960
that high up and there was three lights

2760
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:24,080
that were

2761
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:26,880
rotating just kind of changing colors

2762
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:28,719
and it just stayed there and it did not

2763
01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:29,760
move

2764
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:32,840
how far away do you think this was

2765
01:51:37,189 --> 01:51:35,520
probably a couple miles okay something

2766
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:37,199
like that and it was just far enough

2767
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:41,040
away where the lights were kind of

2768
01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:43,599
shadowing whatever the shape of it was

2769
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:46,080
but it just sat there and it's

2770
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:48,480
i knew that it was a ufo because it was

2771
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:49,599
so

2772
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:51,920
weird looking and it did not move at all

2773
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:54,400
whatsoever and it just stayed there and

2774
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:56,239
i was infatuated with i don't know how

2775
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:58,400
long i looked at it it was there for so

2776
01:52:01,589 --> 01:51:59,679
long that

2777
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,599
i went back inside and i woke up my

2778
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:03,360
little brother because he was sleeping

2779
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,360
and i'm like dude you need to come see

2780
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:07,520
this and he came outside and he's like

2781
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:09,440
whoa that's crazy and then he just like

2782
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,280
went back to bed and he didn't care but

2783
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:13,679
i i watched it it was there for probably

2784
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:15,920
20 minutes and then it's just gone now

2785
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,520
what color were the lights that were

2786
01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:19,520
moving around it i want to say it was

2787
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:25,589
reddish then blueish than greenish it

2788
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:28,080
was kind of changing it was the changing

2789
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:31,440
colors and the center part was what it

2790
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:33,679
the center part looked kind of circular

2791
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:36,560
to me and what color

2792
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:39,920
just kind of metallic whoa

2793
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:43,520
okay and would you say it was a sphere

2794
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:45,520
i would say it was like a sphere

2795
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:46,960
yeah

2796
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:48,880
and from that distance so it's a couple

2797
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:50,000
of miles

2798
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:51,520
this would

2799
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:53,040
be pretty big

2800
01:53:06,070 --> 01:52:54,560
it was

2801
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:06,080
at least twice the size of that

2802
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,360
oh

2803
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,080
okay now now we're now we're talking

2804
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:12,000
um how long were you outside before you

2805
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:14,000
went to go get your brother

2806
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,760
five minutes five minutes that's a

2807
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:17,520
that's a pretty long time and it it

2808
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:20,560
didn't move it didn't move any sound no

2809
01:53:25,109 --> 01:53:21,520
sound

2810
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:25,119
uh did you get any vibe from it

2811
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:28,719
i just felt that

2812
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:31,679
i was supposed to just stare at it and

2813
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:34,239
just i i don't you know i don't feel

2814
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:36,480
like i was getting any messages or

2815
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:38,639
anything of that sort but it just it it

2816
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:40,400
felt it made

2817
01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:42,880
i just remember it made me feel good

2818
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:48,629
connected to

2819
01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:50,880
the universe more that was kind of the

2820
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:52,880
feeling i was getting from it

2821
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,760
and

2822
01:53:57,189 --> 01:53:56,000
after five minutes you go in to get your

2823
01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,199
brother

2824
01:54:01,990 --> 01:53:59,520
he comes out he sees it how long was

2825
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:02,000
your brother there before he bailed

2826
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:04,719
probably literally like 45 seconds okay

2827
01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:07,360
so a minute later he's gone

2828
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:09,199
you're still

2829
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:10,960
uh standing there looking at it yeah i

2830
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:13,520
just sat down and just stared at it for

2831
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:16,159
for for how much longer probably 15

2832
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:18,639
minutes no kidding yeah it was there for

2833
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:20,960
a really long time and then just

2834
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:22,639
okay wait a minute you just can't say

2835
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:24,800
that okay

2836
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:26,320
because that's actually the best part of

2837
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:28,239
this sighting if you think about it was

2838
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:29,840
it leaving

2839
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,239
um so

2840
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:34,080
you're in north scottsdale are you

2841
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:42,149
east you're facing east yeah okay which

2842
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,520
is desert

2843
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:45,280
yes right okay

2844
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,840
so um i know that area pretty well you

2845
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:49,599
know rob halford lives on camelback

2846
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:52,239
right oh yeah yeah of course okay okay

2847
01:54:54,629 --> 01:54:53,599
um

2848
01:54:56,229 --> 01:54:54,639
uh

2849
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:56,239
why did i say that oh because you're

2850
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:58,159
north of camelback yeah north of

2851
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,800
hamilton halford's behind you so you're

2852
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:02,800
you're you're in north scottsdale facing

2853
01:55:09,830 --> 01:55:06,159
east which is now wide open desert out

2854
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:09,840
in that area so when you said

2855
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:12,159
and you pointed this way so did it take

2856
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:13,920
off to the north

2857
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,159
it took off i want to say

2858
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:19,040
it took off to the south oh it went to

2859
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:20,880
your right yes it went to my right it

2860
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:24,400
went to your right up did it go up

2861
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,440
it was gone so fast that i i couldn't

2862
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:29,679
even tell you if it was up or or but i

2863
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:31,440
know i saw it kind of

2864
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:33,040
to the right and then it was kind of

2865
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:34,000
gone

2866
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:35,360
and

2867
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,880
how long

2868
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:40,159
a second

2869
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:41,199
right

2870
01:55:44,830 --> 01:55:44,159
yeah yeah that fast and and and when you

2871
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:44,840
say

2872
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:47,280
gone what do you mean

2873
01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:50,320
as in it left and i kind of was able to

2874
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,560
kind of see it go it was kind of going

2875
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:53,840
to the right and kind of going up but

2876
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:56,400
then it just kind of disappeared like so

2877
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,480
there was no it was gone in the sense

2878
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:01,040
that i saw it go so far away that it was

2879
01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:03,520
out of my distance right it actually

2880
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:06,000
disappeared like vaporized yeah like

2881
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,080
vaporized like dissolved like dissolved

2882
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:09,520
you know that's that you know that's

2883
01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:11,360
that's pretty you're you're officially a

2884
01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:13,599
crazy ufo person just with that

2885
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:16,239
description i am i am

2886
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:18,719
most people would say i've i've had i've

2887
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:21,199
shared what you're describing now but

2888
01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:23,920
most people that would hear this would

2889
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:25,520
say that you're crazy you're making it

2890
01:56:31,589 --> 01:56:28,560
up i'm yeah i mean i was definitely old

2891
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:31,599
enough to i like i i was very focused on

2892
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:33,280
it

2893
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:36,480
what do you what do you think you saw

2894
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:37,280
i

2895
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:54,960
some somebody

2896
01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:56,880
you know on tv you know me me and my

2897
01:57:01,910 --> 01:57:00,080
cousin we're out fishing yes right

2898
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:01,920
i know i'm that guy right you're that

2899
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:03,599
guy i'm that guy right now and what did

2900
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:04,320
you

2901
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:09,199
people that were trying to tell people

2902
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,040
about what they saw

2903
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,960
were you thinking that they were crazy

2904
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,639
and that this stuff doesn't happen and

2905
01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:16,880
that they were making it up i never

2906
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,679
thought anyone was crazy because i was

2907
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,599
always so into

2908
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:23,520
history as a kid and it kind of started

2909
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:25,360
with you know all the stuff they talk

2910
01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:28,320
about on ancient aliens i just like i i

2911
01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:30,800
know that we're not alone and

2912
01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:33,520
it it just it it wouldn't make sense

2913
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:35,280
that we would be alone

2914
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:37,360
right logically it doesn't make sense to

2915
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,119
me that there is nothing

2916
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:41,040
else out there what do you make of we'll

2917
01:57:44,709 --> 01:57:42,080
talk uh

2918
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:44,719
we've got some other stuff that uh that

2919
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,080
you and your friends experience we'll

2920
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:48,080
talk about that after the break but what

2921
01:57:52,790 --> 01:57:50,560
do you think of today you just brought

2922
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:52,800
up science yeah exoplanets being

2923
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:56,480
discovered the tic tac you of navy

2924
01:58:01,910 --> 01:58:00,320
the senate that suddenly ufos are in the

2925
01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:01,920
news and it's not because of ancient

2926
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:03,840
aliens it's because of something else

2927
01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:04,639
right

2928
01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:06,560
what do i make of that being in the news

2929
01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:09,280
now yeah i think that it's coming to a

2930
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:10,800
time where

2931
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:11,760
they're

2932
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:13,840
getting us ready to understand that

2933
01:58:17,350 --> 01:58:16,159
that's a real thing and

2934
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:17,360
if they

2935
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:19,040
they just couldn't do it all at once

2936
01:58:22,390 --> 01:58:20,800
because that would be kind of crazy of

2937
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:22,400
them and it would freak too many people

2938
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,520
out i think

2939
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:25,599
do you remember uh

2940
01:58:31,109 --> 01:58:28,159
i'm trying to think of uh

2941
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:31,119
who's the band that did hangar 18

2942
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:34,080
megadeaf megadeth right okay so i'm sure

2943
01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:35,679
that you listened to that song right

2944
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:37,840
when you were a kid yeah and now we're

2945
01:58:42,950 --> 01:58:40,239
living it right right right dave

2946
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:42,960
mustaine wasn't that far off was he no

2947
01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:45,119
no he wasn't i i

2948
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:46,159
honestly

2949
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:48,000
i i don't you know i don't care if

2950
01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:50,719
people believe or don't believe i firmly

2951
01:58:54,229 --> 01:58:52,400
believe because like i said just

2952
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:54,239
logically it doesn't make sense that

2953
01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:55,920
there's nothing

2954
01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:58,320
else out there there's no way let's take

2955
01:59:02,229 --> 01:58:59,840
our break right here this is fade to

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01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:02,239
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why fade to black

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church live in the studio tonight

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jordan ziff

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and uh love talking uh rock and roll and

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and i don't get

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the opportunity jordan to uh

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to really talk shop shop i mean you know

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uh with the guitar player sitting with

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guitars and going through that so much

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fun for me and i know that uh everybody

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out there

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knows what i'm about and and know

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that i'm enjoying myself it's been a

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great conversation tonight and then we

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get the element of of you know ufos uh

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thrown in uh to all of this um

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what do you watch you mention ancient

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aliens do you are you a consumer of of

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ufo stuff do you check it out do you

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research at all i do i've been wa i i

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would say that i watch at least some

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sort of series probably once a month i'm

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pretty i'm

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i'm i'm too into it have you seen hanger

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one i have not seen hanger one okay yeah

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there's a dude in that that's not that

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good

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yeah it's fat

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just radio dude just talk smack yeah

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he's not that good yeah so avoid avoid

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hanger one okay okay all right

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have you seen uh

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uh

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the

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ufos

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you know like bigfoot too and things but

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like this is like taking over some cable

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channels right it's all ufo programming

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all the time yeah

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it's yeah it's it's really interesting

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and it's in

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it used to be kind of only late at night

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but i feel like it's becoming

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right right you know what i mean it's

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mainstream all the people that like stay

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up late at night to watch that stuff but

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it's become very mainstream and uh why

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do you think that is

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i

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not so taboo

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and uh i think that a lot of

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i don't know i i couldn't tell you what

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percentage of people but i have to

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imagine most people think that there are

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ufos yeah that we're not alone i mean

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yeah that we're not alone you know and

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and obviously ufos goes with that

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thought process right and

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it's yeah it's very interesting i mean

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my favorite things to think about is

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you know space and

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kind of the physics of space and ufos

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and aliens and and and i also am really

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into spiritual things as well and and

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ghosts and things of that sort so

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it's it's very interesting to me to

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think about because i i go

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how is that stuff related right like

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what rock do you know what i mean yes i

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do because you go okay you think you

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know i'm not a religious person or

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anything like that but you think when

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there's ghosts you think like this

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afterlife and this blah blah but then if

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there's like this afterlife and then

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02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:10,719
there's

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aliens too do they have like a alien

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afterlife and it's just like how do i

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02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:17,520
connect those two things together but i

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i believe that all of it's real but it's

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just really hard for us to grasp

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what we don't even

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things that i think we couldn't even

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understand if someone tried to explain

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it to us i think it's just a

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there's no words to explain it there's

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just a

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growth of consciousness that you learn

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about these things and it's all

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connected right it's all connected it's

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all connected and now with you know this

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ufo programming you know that seems to

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be everywhere and it's now part of

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popular culture

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now we've got you know the united states

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senate you know talking about this and

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uaps and ufos in the united states navy

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all of this seems to be happening right

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at the same time

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do you feel that the government that

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used to

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tease the ufo community right call us

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02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:09,840
crazy and tin foil hats and and all of

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02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,159
that now suddenly they're taking the

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subject serious and there must be a

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02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:16,000
reason why do you think that they know

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something that we don't

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i mean

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i don't it's hard to say like i don't

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02:08:26,709 --> 02:08:24,320
know for sure that they know anything

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02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:26,719
that's of of huge significance that we

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02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:28,480
don't know obviously they know

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02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:30,960
uh about aliens and they i believe that

3178
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:32,239
they know about aliens they know about

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02:08:35,270 --> 02:08:33,520
ufos and they've been studying all that

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but i don't know if they know anything

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about hey you guys better prepare for

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an invasion whatever you know what i

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mean something something of significance

3184
02:08:47,669 --> 02:08:44,560
that's coming up that they're preparing

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us for now the you could go crazy and

3186
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:50,239
say you know weird conspiracy stuff but

3187
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you know you could go well you know i

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think they've been reverse engineering

3189
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:56,320
this stuff for a long time and they're

3190
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letting us know that it's real so that

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02:09:02,470 --> 02:09:00,400
you know they could do something really

3192
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sinister and stage an invasion or

3193
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:04,800
something of that sort you are into this

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02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:06,800
you know so yeah right right so that

3195
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would be honestly the

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that's the craziest thing i could say

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02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:14,079
publicly and i'm not saying that's

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happening or i believe that's going to

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happen but but i always think that those

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things are a possibility and

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and the funny thing is

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with them leaking all of this ufo

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02:09:29,270 --> 02:09:25,520
information i go

3204
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:29,280
what other reason do they have besides

3205
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something of that sort right do you know

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what i mean i do yeah i do i do

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and uh wow this this conversation just

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took a great turn right in the right

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02:09:46,229 --> 02:09:43,199
direction you know that

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uh where we are broadcasting from one

3211
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:48,320
mile away and you were just commenting

3212
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:50,159
about the stars in the backyard yeah

3213
02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:53,520
okay one mile that way is lockheed skunk

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works

3215
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where they're developing all the reverse

3216
02:10:01,669 --> 02:09:59,599
engineering craft right right right yeah

3217
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:01,679
yes i've heard of that okay yeah

3218
02:10:05,750 --> 02:10:03,920
it's right there oh that's interesting

3219
02:10:07,589 --> 02:10:05,760
so we could go

3220
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:07,599
i've got night vision i've got

3221
02:10:13,910 --> 02:10:09,119
binoculars you've seen all the

3222
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:13,920
yeah um you see my telescope right okay

3223
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:17,199
all that exists here right we could go

3224
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:19,199
uh out back tonight and see something

3225
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:21,840
crazy it's a guarantee yeah do you see

3226
02:10:26,950 --> 02:10:24,400
do you see stuff all the time i do yeah

3227
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:26,960
and and and i'm sure you think that this

3228
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:29,440
stuff isn't necessarily

3229
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:33,440
aliens no right i do not right

3230
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:40,870
because i do believe in ufos so strongly

3231
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:42,960
and i do believe the government has been

3232
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:46,000
so involved with it for a while now that

3233
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:48,960
there's that if you do believe in ufos

3234
02:10:53,589 --> 02:10:51,360
then you do believe that there's such a

3235
02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:53,599
really high probability that the

3236
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:55,599
government has reverse engineered some

3237
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:56,480
of it

3238
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:59,040
you know and uh

3239
02:11:03,189 --> 02:11:01,040
not saying that's for sure just saying

3240
02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:03,199
that you i just i i'm always playing

3241
02:11:08,550 --> 02:11:06,639
devil's advocate with myself but i i i

3242
02:11:10,629 --> 02:11:08,560
kind of just come from the the thought

3243
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:10,639
of like yeah like anything's possible

3244
02:11:15,510 --> 02:11:12,800
well it's a numbers game jordan it's a

3245
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:15,520
numbers game so if uh if we're not alone

3246
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:17,920
in the universe and we know how big our

3247
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:20,320
milky way is and there's 40 billion

3248
02:11:25,270 --> 02:11:22,400
earth-like planets how much

3249
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:25,280
alien life is out there how much of that

3250
02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:26,719
which has got to be in the tens of

3251
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:29,679
thousands know that earth is here then

3252
02:11:35,109 --> 02:11:32,880
therefore how many of that have visited

3253
02:11:36,149 --> 02:11:35,119
this planet okay take it down a step

3254
02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:36,159
further

3255
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:38,560
how many craft have been captured maybe

3256
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:40,719
traded maybe they bartered with us right

3257
02:11:46,229 --> 02:11:42,719
maybe they got maybe they got a couple

3258
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:46,239
of kittens uh you know in trade for

3259
02:11:52,310 --> 02:11:49,440
for a craft that is in turn reverse

3260
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:52,320
engineered it's a numbers game right in

3261
02:11:56,950 --> 02:11:55,119
probability right i think i think the

3262
02:11:59,270 --> 02:11:56,960
thing that interests me the most is like

3263
02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:59,280
i said i believe that we've had crafts i

3264
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:01,360
even believe that we've had aliens you

3265
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:04,000
know live aliens or dead you know either

3266
02:12:07,669 --> 02:12:06,400
way i i know i feel like we've had that

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02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,679
and

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02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:09,840
i don't question any of that stuff i

3269
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:11,040
wonder

3270
02:12:14,790 --> 02:12:13,280
if we're fully in

3271
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:14,800
communication

3272
02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:15,679
with

3273
02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:17,040
other

3274
02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:20,159
worldly beings if we're if if there is a

3275
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:22,560
certain branch of our government that's

3276
02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:23,760
actually

3277
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:26,159
in a communication with them as opposed

3278
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:28,159
to this one guy that they picked up

3279
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:30,000
because he crashed his spaceship

3280
02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:32,079
you know like are we in communication

3281
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:33,760
with any other

3282
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:35,520
alien civilizations

3283
02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:38,800
and would it be out of the question

3284
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:40,960
to think that this ufo programming

3285
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:43,040
that's on right ancient aliens and

3286
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:45,040
hanger one

3287
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:46,079
and then

3288
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:48,079
what science is talking about with the

3289
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:50,800
exoplanet fast radio burst right

3290
02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:53,040
communication and then the government

3291
02:12:57,270 --> 02:12:54,719
talking about what they are talking

3292
02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:57,280
about the tic tac in the united states

3293
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,760
navy that they're just getting is warmed

3294
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:00,480
up

3295
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:03,360
right that they're doing this drip drip

3296
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,159
so when the big thing happens we all

3297
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:08,639
don't go into shock

3298
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:10,400
yeah i mean that's obviously the the

3299
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:12,000
potential there and that's why i was

3300
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:13,599
saying you know

3301
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:15,280
do we know of

3302
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:17,520
an invasion that's happening

3303
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:20,079
are we staging an invasion

3304
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:23,199
or are we just going to introduce the

3305
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:25,760
world to

3306
02:13:28,870 --> 02:13:26,639
other

3307
02:13:31,589 --> 02:13:28,880
you know worldly beings

3308
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:31,599
do you think the world can handle it

3309
02:13:34,790 --> 02:13:33,840
honestly i do

3310
02:13:36,470 --> 02:13:34,800
why

3311
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:36,480
because i think we've been fed this

3312
02:13:42,550 --> 02:13:40,560
stuff for so long that it's not as as uh

3313
02:13:44,069 --> 02:13:42,560
as big of a shock at this point in time

3314
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:44,079
i think maybe would be really hard to

3315
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:45,360
handle

3316
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:47,760
80 years ago right but with the

3317
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:51,520
technology we have today it's it every

3318
02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:53,679
day we get closer to going like oh like

3319
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:55,679
i guess that like that stuff isn't

3320
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:57,520
impossible forever

3321
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:00,239
so i feel like just with how far we've

3322
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:02,800
come in technology it's proven to people

3323
02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:04,320
how quickly

3324
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:05,920
we can evolve

3325
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:08,960
why couldn't other people evolve

3326
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:11,280
thousands of years before us do you uh

3327
02:14:16,790 --> 02:14:12,960
what about your rock and roll friends do

3328
02:14:20,149 --> 02:14:16,800
you talk ufos with them i i sure do

3329
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:20,159
yeah and do you find that everybody is

3330
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:21,920
sharing the same interest or are they

3331
02:14:25,270 --> 02:14:23,599
learning from you

3332
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:25,280
i feel

3333
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:27,440
that everyone kind of shares the same

3334
02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:28,880
interest to an extent i feel like i'm

3335
02:14:33,350 --> 02:14:30,960
probably more into it than than other

3336
02:14:35,109 --> 02:14:33,360
people but uh

3337
02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:35,119
stephen piercy

3338
02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,599
super into it i mean watches

3339
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:39,440
every time we're on the road and i go to

3340
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:41,119
his hotel room and he's watching ancient

3341
02:14:46,149 --> 02:14:43,679
aliens really yeah just 100 percent of

3342
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:46,159
the time he cares he cares about aliens

3343
02:14:51,990 --> 02:14:47,440
so

3344
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:52,000
that's that's pretty trippy

3345
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:54,079
yeah it was six degrees of separation

3346
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:57,119
right yeah um wow

3347
02:15:01,830 --> 02:14:59,040
okay

3348
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:01,840
i'm going to leave that right there well

3349
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:03,760
we were talking about rob halford during

3350
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:04,719
the break

3351
02:15:08,709 --> 02:15:07,520
and um i'm over at rob's house

3352
02:15:12,310 --> 02:15:08,719
and

3353
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:12,320
i think i had a briefcase or i had

3354
02:15:17,430 --> 02:15:15,520
something with me but inside of it was

3355
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:17,440
this book called uh

3356
02:15:20,950 --> 02:15:20,079
top above top secret

3357
02:15:22,629 --> 02:15:20,960
by

3358
02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:22,639
timothy cook i think

3359
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:24,800
and uh but he sees the book and he picks

3360
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:27,920
it up and he goes ah aliens right you'll

3361
02:15:34,870 --> 02:15:32,079
i go yeah ever see one i said uh maybe

3362
02:15:37,270 --> 02:15:34,880
i was like weird man i'm like okay now

3363
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:37,280
this was uh you know this is 20 years

3364
02:15:39,910 --> 02:15:38,639
ago yeah

3365
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:39,920
and uh

3366
02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:41,360
and i said

3367
02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:43,440
funny that you bring this up

3368
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,639
i said do you know where cave creek is

3369
02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:48,480
he goes yeah it's right at the street

3370
02:15:53,750 --> 02:15:51,040
here in scottsdale and i said there's a

3371
02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:53,760
story in here about a crashed ufo in

3372
02:15:57,510 --> 02:15:56,400
cave creek in 1958

3373
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:57,520
shut up

3374
02:16:02,390 --> 02:16:00,239
and uh and rob

3375
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:02,400
back me up on this this is exactly how i

3376
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:05,920
i open it up he takes he reads the the

3377
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:08,560
story about cave creek and he's and

3378
02:16:12,149 --> 02:16:10,239
scottsdale already goes

3379
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:12,159
let's go

3380
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:15,520
we jumped in the car and we drove up

3381
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,320
scottsdale road to cave creek which is

3382
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:20,400
where you had your sighting well oddly

3383
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:22,719
enough yeah i mean more in that area

3384
02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:25,920
yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh and but rob

3385
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:30,000
was told i had no idea then after that

3386
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:31,520
i couldn't shut him up

3387
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:32,479
yeah

3388
02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:34,639
once once we made that ufo connection

3389
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:36,639
yeah we talked about it all the time and

3390
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:40,240
i was totally surprised i mean

3391
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:43,040
it i i can't imagine anything more

3392
02:16:47,509 --> 02:16:45,599
interesting than

3393
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:47,519
what is beyond

3394
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:51,280
like

3395
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,880
i can't think of anything more

3396
02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:54,639
interesting than that so it's just not a

3397
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:57,599
surprise to me that uh

3398
02:17:01,910 --> 02:16:59,599
a lot of musicians are very much into

3399
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:01,920
that sort of thing now uh you told you

3400
02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:04,000
shared okay let's talk about uh the

3401
02:17:08,389 --> 02:17:05,359
other incident

3402
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:08,399
with uh one of your friends um uh

3403
02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:09,679
growing up

3404
02:17:14,709 --> 02:17:11,920
uh what year was this how old were you

3405
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:14,719
and just kind of give me the background

3406
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:17,280
i was one again it was in that same time

3407
02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:19,280
frame that i had my ufo sighting so i

3408
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:21,760
was around 14. okay

3409
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,040
um my friend was at home

3410
02:17:28,950 --> 02:17:27,280
he and he lives literally

3411
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:28,960
i could walk to his house in two minutes

3412
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:30,399
from you know from my parents house

3413
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:32,880
where i was living and he was laying in

3414
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:33,840
bed

3415
02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:34,719
and

3416
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:35,439
he

3417
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:37,760
nobody was home but

3418
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:39,120
he felt like there was someone inside

3419
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:40,399
almost like when you feel like there's a

3420
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:42,479
spirit inside of your house or you feel

3421
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:43,840
like someone's standing behind you just

3422
02:17:48,469 --> 02:17:46,240
kind of like you know you know that's a

3423
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,479
presence like there's just this presence

3424
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,399
there right and there was something

3425
02:17:54,070 --> 02:17:52,719
about this presence that just really

3426
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:54,080
terrified him

3427
02:17:58,150 --> 02:17:55,599
and he was just kind of he told me he

3428
02:18:00,950 --> 02:17:58,160
was laying in bed in this curled up

3429
02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:00,960
position but little did he know

3430
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:02,639
that his brother

3431
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:06,319
was just returning from a party

3432
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:07,760
and when he's getting closer to the

3433
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:09,280
neighborhood he looks up and he's like

3434
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:10,399
whoa

3435
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:12,960
there's there's a ufo right there

3436
02:18:18,469 --> 02:18:15,679
and he saw this ufo like a flying saucer

3437
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,479
like a flying saucer okay and

3438
02:18:22,549 --> 02:18:20,479
i this sounds crazy but he saw this

3439
02:18:24,549 --> 02:18:22,559
flying saucer and these people would not

3440
02:18:27,910 --> 02:18:24,559
lie to me and they would never make this

3441
02:18:29,830 --> 02:18:27,920
up where okay so he's going home where's

3442
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:29,840
the flying saucer in relation to the

3443
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:32,319
house i'll tell you as he gets he looks

3444
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:33,359
and it looks like it's in his

3445
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:34,559
neighborhood

3446
02:18:39,509 --> 02:18:36,639
and as he gets closer to the house he

3447
02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:39,519
realizes wow it's like literally

3448
02:18:43,509 --> 02:18:41,679
like 300 feet

3449
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:43,519
above my house

3450
02:18:47,669 --> 02:18:46,399
his house his house and when he gets

3451
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:47,679
when he turns onto the street in the

3452
02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:50,399
neighborhood it goes up

3453
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:53,280
and gone

3454
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:55,120
he gets to the house

3455
02:19:00,230 --> 02:18:57,359
and he goes inside and the first thing

3456
02:19:02,469 --> 02:19:00,240
is his his brother says

3457
02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:02,479
did you just get home

3458
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:05,040
there was something in here that was

3459
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:06,800
like weird and messing with me and then

3460
02:19:10,549 --> 02:19:08,399
he goes

3461
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:10,559
well there was literally a ufo just

3462
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:12,719
above our house

3463
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:14,559
and i know this sounds like one of those

3464
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:16,960
yeah i was out fishing with the you know

3465
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:19,519
me and my cousin ernie but it's not that

3466
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:22,000
right these people are not like that

3467
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,000
and the order of the story was that he

3468
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:26,399
was like what were you in the house and

3469
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:28,960
nobody was in the house until

3470
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:31,120
he got home right

3471
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:33,760
so to me that's the closest

3472
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:36,160
i've been to something that's super

3473
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:39,359
weird i mean that's like he was there to

3474
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:41,920
abduct or something of that sort so he

3475
02:19:45,910 --> 02:19:44,160
felt like e.t was in the house yes he

3476
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:45,920
felt like e.t was in the house

3477
02:19:49,270 --> 02:19:48,080
and uh

3478
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:49,280
was there

3479
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:50,160
i got

3480
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:51,520
missing time do you think he was

3481
02:19:56,790 --> 02:19:54,240
abducted i mean i he has never said

3482
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:56,800
anything about missing time so i don't

3483
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:59,040
think that he was abducted but but

3484
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:01,200
honestly i don't know i honestly never

3485
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:02,800
asked him about if there was missing

3486
02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:03,760
time

3487
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:06,240
the uh

3488
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:10,160
the experience like this most people

3489
02:20:13,990 --> 02:20:11,760
don't want to talk about it they're

3490
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:14,000
reticent you know to

3491
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:17,760
to talk about this um with anybody yeah

3492
02:20:20,309 --> 02:20:18,800
um

3493
02:20:25,349 --> 02:20:20,319
did they

3494
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:25,359
and two do they talk about it today

3495
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:27,120
and is this something that other people

3496
02:20:33,190 --> 02:20:31,120
know about this is something that uh

3497
02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:33,200
not that many people know about it but

3498
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,960
when as soon as it happened they called

3499
02:20:37,750 --> 02:20:36,080
me and they're like

3500
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:37,760
dude

3501
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:42,000
and they told me i'm just like oh my god

3502
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:43,840
because that's that's in my neighborhood

3503
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:46,080
right you know right right right right

3504
02:20:48,790 --> 02:20:46,880
right

3505
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:48,800
and uh pretty

3506
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:51,600
pretty creepy not out of the norm when

3507
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:53,520
it comes to ufo

3508
02:20:59,910 --> 02:20:56,960
uh contact experiences uh no not at all

3509
02:21:02,710 --> 02:20:59,920
this is all but it's got all of the

3510
02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:02,720
elements of the classic

3511
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:05,680
contact story right right where somehow

3512
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:07,200
a being has

3513
02:21:11,750 --> 02:21:08,960
gone through the walls

3514
02:21:12,630 --> 02:21:11,760
right now if the if the ship took off

3515
02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:12,640
when

3516
02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:15,120
the brothers pulling up

3517
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,399
that means

3518
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:19,120
whoever was inside of the house

3519
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:21,920
went from the house to the ship and left

3520
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:24,560
right that that's that sounds like crazy

3521
02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:26,160
talk but this is something that people

3522
02:21:29,830 --> 02:21:27,840
talk about all the time yeah i mean

3523
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:29,840
there's tons of stories of of aliens

3524
02:21:32,870 --> 02:21:31,920
basically floating down from a ship

3525
02:21:34,950 --> 02:21:32,880
right right

3526
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:34,960
there's some sort of

3527
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:37,120
i don't know some sort of

3528
02:21:43,910 --> 02:21:40,399
almost spiritual beings right sure sure

3529
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:43,920
um did the brother uh not the one in bed

3530
02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:46,240
the one that was uh pulling up in the

3531
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:49,760
driveway did he describe the craft to

3532
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:51,760
you did you ever he said it was like a

3533
02:22:03,030 --> 02:21:59,910
were you are you aware of

3534
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:03,040
the phoenix lights of course okay now oh

3535
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:04,319
by the way

3536
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:06,560
i was in phoenix when that happened oh

3537
02:22:10,630 --> 02:22:08,080
really yeah thursday night so did you

3538
02:22:11,750 --> 02:22:10,640
see it no no and i was i was with

3539
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:11,760
halford

3540
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:13,359
and a few other people we are at the

3541
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:15,600
hard rock um

3542
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:17,840
at uh the four seasons or whatever that

3543
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,600
is right there um off of lincoln

3544
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:22,880
i think that's where it's at it's been a

3545
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:25,200
long time but we were there uh out on

3546
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:26,560
the patio

3547
02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:29,439
and that night when i i flew back to uh

3548
02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:30,800
burbank

3549
02:22:35,030 --> 02:22:31,920
and uh

3550
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:35,040
and i i come in and i turn on the tv

3551
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:36,240
i've got my luggage you know and i

3552
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:37,680
dropped my luggage

3553
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,640
and uh i was with uh billy siegel from

3554
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:42,479
fender guitars right

3555
02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:44,960
he sent me this shirt i was with billy

3556
02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:46,800
and and rob

3557
02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:48,800
and a few friends and anyway so i turned

3558
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:50,720
on the tv and that's the news last night

3559
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:53,280
a ufo appeared over the city of phoenix

3560
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:55,520
i was like what say what right and i

3561
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:57,600
immediately i know that i just got back

3562
02:23:01,590 --> 02:22:59,840
from phoenix but i'm watching the news

3563
02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:01,600
and i'm listening to this and i'm

3564
02:23:08,070 --> 02:23:05,040
thinking to myself how we were outside

3565
02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:08,080
in scottsdale on lincoln boulevard you

3566
02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:10,880
know we were right where this thing was

3567
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:14,000
seen we never looked up wow i i totally

3568
02:23:17,510 --> 02:23:16,160
missed it i cannot i still to this day

3569
02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:17,520
cannot believe i

3570
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:19,760
i didn't see a thing that's crazy that's

3571
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:21,120
crazy that you were there and didn't get

3572
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:24,000
a chance to see that did you have uh any

3573
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:26,800
you you were you were born

3574
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:30,240
91 you said you were 30. yep 91 yeah

3575
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:32,000
okay so you would have been seven eight

3576
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:33,760
years old do you remember it i don't

3577
02:23:38,790 --> 02:23:36,240
remember it do you have any friends that

3578
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:38,800
saw it any relatives parents friends

3579
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:41,040
parents and stuff and it's funny enough

3580
02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:43,120
i actually just never asked my parents

3581
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,160
about it

3582
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:46,960
i think uh i think my parents are not

3583
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:49,520
really into this subject for whatever

3584
02:23:54,070 --> 02:23:52,080
reason not not for any particular reason

3585
02:23:55,830 --> 02:23:54,080
but it just i don't understand but it

3586
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:55,840
doesn't

3587
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:59,760
okay let's talk about your parents for a

3588
02:24:04,230 --> 02:24:00,640
second

3589
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:04,240
um uh i they they're very aware of what

3590
02:24:07,750 --> 02:24:05,359
you do

3591
02:24:09,429 --> 02:24:07,760
do they go and listen to interviews and

3592
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:09,439
and check things out do they follow what

3593
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:12,080
you're doing i'm sure they do

3594
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:15,280
now like this show yeah would they

3595
02:24:21,110 --> 02:24:18,800
go and and and find it and listen to it

3596
02:24:22,389 --> 02:24:21,120
i'm sure they do i'm sure they would and

3597
02:24:26,950 --> 02:24:22,399
so they're gonna listen to you talk

3598
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:28,870
if i if i like it they like it oh that's

3599
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:30,080
totally cool

3600
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:32,240
um what kind of i i want to stay with

3601
02:24:36,070 --> 02:24:34,960
this so they growing up

3602
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:36,080
were they

3603
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,040
uh into consciousness and and

3604
02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:41,760
you know free thought ufos and

3605
02:24:45,190 --> 02:24:42,560
my

3606
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:45,200
mom is very spiritual

3607
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:48,640
and uh my dad has become very much more

3608
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:51,200
spiritual over the years and it kind of

3609
02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:52,960
uh i mean i guess i don't really talk

3610
02:24:58,710 --> 02:24:55,600
about this subject a lot publicly but

3611
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:58,720
my older brother passed away from

3612
02:25:02,070 --> 02:24:59,520
uh

3613
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:02,080
from heroin about six years ago and

3614
02:25:05,590 --> 02:25:03,680
since that happened

3615
02:25:09,830 --> 02:25:05,600
um

3616
02:25:11,990 --> 02:25:09,840
that you know i listened to their

3617
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:12,000
conversations she had them record and i

3618
02:25:16,070 --> 02:25:14,399
was i couldn't even believe

3619
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:16,080
the things that that they were saying

3620
02:25:20,389 --> 02:25:18,240
and they had you know they didn't know

3621
02:25:22,230 --> 02:25:20,399
why she was there or who she was and

3622
02:25:24,870 --> 02:25:22,240
just the things that they were saying

3623
02:25:28,230 --> 02:25:24,880
about my brother and basically directly

3624
02:25:30,870 --> 02:25:28,240
talking him talking through her was like

3625
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:30,880
it it blows my mind and i've always been

3626
02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:32,880
into that stuff but

3627
02:25:36,389 --> 02:25:34,000
that

3628
02:25:38,230 --> 02:25:36,399
has made me even more confirmed like

3629
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:38,240
there's more confirmation to me that

3630
02:25:42,630 --> 02:25:39,840
that's that's a real thing you know

3631
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:42,640
there there's a lot of crackpot uh

3632
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,040
mediums and things of that sort out sure

3633
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:47,359
but but there are real ones

3634
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:49,439
there are and it goes back to your point

3635
02:25:51,349 --> 02:25:50,240
though

3636
02:25:54,070 --> 02:25:51,359
um

3637
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:54,080
that everything is connected

3638
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:57,280
and when when i say that

3639
02:26:04,630 --> 02:26:00,640
you know spirituality consciousness ufos

3640
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:04,640
uh downloading of information and chat

3641
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,000
all of the this is what's crazy to me

3642
02:26:12,070 --> 02:26:10,080
is that the world of science which you

3643
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:12,080
brought up and physics

3644
02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:14,240
where they want us

3645
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:15,120
to

3646
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:17,600
understand what they are saying

3647
02:26:23,270 --> 02:26:20,000
there's a multiverse there are parallel

3648
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:23,280
worlds there are 11 dimensions not three

3649
02:26:27,349 --> 02:26:26,640
or four you need to accept entanglement

3650
02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:27,359
and

3651
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:37,120
that they're right

3652
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:39,120
then everything else is connected to as

3653
02:26:44,070 --> 02:26:42,319
well that is confirming the afterlife

3654
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:44,080
that is confirming

3655
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:48,960
uh interdimensionality of things and

3656
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:51,280
maybe even bigfoot right

3657
02:26:55,750 --> 02:26:53,520
oh yeah it's i mean you

3658
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:55,760
the the possibilities are endless and i

3659
02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:57,040
feel like

3660
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:58,000
uh

3661
02:27:01,429 --> 02:26:59,439
in reality

3662
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:01,439
anything's possible because of all of

3663
02:27:06,469 --> 02:27:04,080
the the the possibilities with different

3664
02:27:08,150 --> 02:27:06,479
universes and and

3665
02:27:10,070 --> 02:27:08,160
it just

3666
02:27:12,550 --> 02:27:10,080
there's there's there's almost not a

3667
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:12,560
thing that someone could tell me is real

3668
02:27:17,030 --> 02:27:15,359
and i'd be like no way

3669
02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:17,040
that's really cool and it wouldn't it

3670
02:27:21,190 --> 02:27:19,120
wouldn't even like blow my mind because

3671
02:27:23,110 --> 02:27:21,200
i'd be like yeah i mean i i feel like

3672
02:27:25,349 --> 02:27:23,120
anything's possible

3673
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:25,359
it's it's always a numbers game yeah i

3674
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:27,200
always i always look at

3675
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:30,399
right now jordan this is i'm telling you

3676
02:27:35,270 --> 02:27:33,120
this is in the world of probabilities

3677
02:27:38,389 --> 02:27:35,280
in the world of numbers what i'm about

3678
02:27:40,309 --> 02:27:38,399
to say is a fact

3679
02:27:42,150 --> 02:27:40,319
that right now

3680
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:42,160
it's just numbers

3681
02:27:46,389 --> 02:27:43,520
that right now

3682
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:46,399
there is a guy a guitar player named

3683
02:27:50,230 --> 02:27:47,439
jordan

3684
02:27:52,950 --> 02:27:50,240
and a radio guy named jimmy on another

3685
02:27:55,830 --> 02:27:52,960
planet in this universe having this

3686
02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:57,349
i would love that and i would love to

3687
02:28:02,150 --> 02:27:59,359
meet them

3688
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:02,160
it's a fact except for he doesn't uh

3689
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:04,560
jordan doesn't wear red leather he wears

3690
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,920
purple leather

3691
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,840
and no no as a matter of fact he wears

3692
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:10,160
jeans and a t-shirt on stage

3693
02:28:14,950 --> 02:28:12,800
yeah that makes all the sense yeah

3694
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:14,960
in in in that and and i'll give you the

3695
02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:16,640
best example

3696
02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:19,040
if you take a deck of cards

3697
02:28:23,750 --> 02:28:20,800
and you deal out five cards to five

3698
02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:23,760
people right okay and then you shuffle

3699
02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:24,880
the deck

3700
02:28:28,389 --> 02:28:26,479
and then eventually

3701
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:28,399
you're gonna deal out

3702
02:28:32,870 --> 02:28:30,800
the exact same hand to everybody now it

3703
02:28:36,070 --> 02:28:32,880
may take a million hands

3704
02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:36,080
it may happen in five hands right but

3705
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:38,720
there is only so many ways those cards

3706
02:28:42,950 --> 02:28:40,960
can be shuffled before

3707
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:42,960
they repeat

3708
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:44,880
yeah okay yeah yeah of course it's the

3709
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:46,240
same thing

3710
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:48,399
with particles and atoms they only

3711
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:50,800
combine so many different ways

3712
02:28:56,950 --> 02:28:54,399
and eventually in this universe

3713
02:28:59,590 --> 02:28:56,960
everything is going to combine the exact

3714
02:29:01,190 --> 02:28:59,600
same way they did here on earth right

3715
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:01,200
it's just the way it is i feel like

3716
02:29:06,309 --> 02:29:04,240
there's proof in that in obviously what

3717
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:06,319
you were just saying but there's just

3718
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:07,600
people

3719
02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:08,640
here

3720
02:29:12,309 --> 02:29:11,280
that look almost identical to someone

3721
02:29:14,630 --> 02:29:12,319
else

3722
02:29:15,910 --> 02:29:14,640
right right that's not related to them i

3723
02:29:17,750 --> 02:29:15,920
feel like i feel like there's proof in

3724
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:17,760
that right right i love those

3725
02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:19,840
photographs too you know separated at

3726
02:29:22,550 --> 02:29:20,800
birth

3727
02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:22,560
well yeah that's exactly what you're

3728
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:24,880
saying yeah yeah you know

3729
02:29:29,750 --> 02:29:27,760
the the atoms combined a certain way

3730
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:29,760
and and you've got another version of

3731
02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:31,840
tom hanks you know or whatever it is and

3732
02:29:35,270 --> 02:29:33,520
we only have what how many people on the

3733
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:35,280
search seven and a half billion seven

3734
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:37,840
and a half billion and

3735
02:29:41,270 --> 02:29:39,280
i mean one out of seven and a half

3736
02:29:42,550 --> 02:29:41,280
billion that happened and you know look

3737
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:42,560
it happened

3738
02:29:46,150 --> 02:29:44,399
i mean there's way more possibilities

3739
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:46,160
than that in the universe i mean it's

3740
02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:49,840
it's it's it's mind-boggling it's so big

3741
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:51,520
and with that let's take a break let's

3742
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:53,680
get this out of the way one more segment

3743
02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:55,840
left this is fade to black jordan ziff

3744
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:59,120
right here live in the studio i am your

3745
02:30:02,950 --> 02:30:00,960
host jimmy church want to remind

3746
02:30:06,469 --> 02:30:02,960
everybody tomorrow night

3747
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:06,479
jason quit for quit spirity eight

3748
02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:08,160
and uh it's been almost a year since

3749
02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:10,160
we've done a quick spiricy huge fan

3750
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:12,319
favorite we'll be doing that tomorrow

3751
02:30:17,690 --> 02:30:14,160
night with jason i'll be right back

3752
02:30:37,190 --> 02:30:17,700
after this short break stay with us

3753
02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:39,349
you're listening to jimmy church and

3754
02:30:44,830 --> 02:30:40,880
made to black

3755
02:30:48,950 --> 02:30:46,950
axe hey what up y'all should have

3756
02:30:51,349 --> 02:30:48,960
biblical fox here and you are listening

3757
02:30:55,429 --> 02:30:51,359
to my boy jimmy church on

3758
02:31:04,630 --> 02:30:57,910
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3759
02:31:08,469 --> 02:31:05,990
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3760
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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

3854
02:35:26,940 --> 02:35:23,120
born this way this is kjccr

3855
02:35:40,230 --> 02:35:37,180
[Music]

3856
02:35:42,389 --> 02:35:40,240
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3857
02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:42,399
jimmy church overtime with jordan ziff

3858
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:44,000
live right here in the studio sitting

3859
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:46,399
right next to me and uh

3860
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:49,200
what a great conversation uh jordan and

3861
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:50,560
this is the thing

3862
02:35:53,750 --> 02:35:51,520
uh

3863
02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,760
i'm just gonna say this during the break

3864
02:35:57,990 --> 02:35:55,840
uh jordan goes man i never get a chance

3865
02:35:59,270 --> 02:35:58,000
to talk about this stuff man we gotta do

3866
02:36:02,150 --> 02:35:59,280
this again

3867
02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:02,160
and uh it but this is

3868
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:05,040
do you feel that when it comes to ufos

3869
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:06,240
now that

3870
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:07,680
suddenly

3871
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:09,840
it is okay to have this conversation

3872
02:36:13,990 --> 02:36:11,840
with people where it wasn't this kind of

3873
02:36:15,910 --> 02:36:14,000
party ten years ago or five years ago

3874
02:36:17,830 --> 02:36:15,920
yeah i mean not even five years ago

3875
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:17,840
probably but i'm really glad that people

3876
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:20,319
can talk about it now because to me it's

3877
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:22,720
all about i feel that

3878
02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:25,130
the ets want us to

3879
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:26,640
[Music]

3880
02:36:30,309 --> 02:36:28,880
spiritually level up

3881
02:36:31,670 --> 02:36:30,319
and the only way we're going to do that

3882
02:36:34,790 --> 02:36:31,680
is to learn about it and really

3883
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:34,800
acknowledge its existence now um

3884
02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:37,840
this is i'll tell you the funny thing

3885
02:36:42,870 --> 02:36:41,439
um we can largely thank tom delong for

3886
02:36:44,309 --> 02:36:42,880
where we are today

3887
02:36:46,710 --> 02:36:44,319
and uh

3888
02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:46,720
when he started uh the to the stars

3889
02:36:48,830 --> 02:36:47,760
academy

3890
02:36:52,230 --> 02:36:48,840
uh back in

3891
02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:52,240
2017 and he starts you know he quits

3892
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:53,920
blink 182

3893
02:36:57,670 --> 02:36:55,840
and he's going right after the united

3894
02:37:00,309 --> 02:36:57,680
states government he's pulling stuff out

3895
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:00,319
of the cia the department of defense and

3896
02:37:07,030 --> 02:37:03,200
and disclosure is here and he's going to

3897
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:07,040
focus all of it and he is largely

3898
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:08,560
responsible i'm going to put it right on

3899
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:09,840
his shoulders

3900
02:37:13,830 --> 02:37:12,880
for the media attention that everything

3901
02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:13,840
got

3902
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:18,479
you playing guitar kind of weird it is

3903
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:20,000
really weird i i was

3904
02:37:24,469 --> 02:37:22,080
in fact i was just thinking about that

3905
02:37:26,710 --> 02:37:24,479
yesterday because i was watching a

3906
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:26,720
series on uh

3907
02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:28,399
on it was on netflix i can't remember

3908
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:30,399
what series it was it was some ufo thing

3909
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:32,080
but it would you know kind of went into

3910
02:37:36,389 --> 02:37:34,160
his to the stars academy and i thought

3911
02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:36,399
that's so funny i'm so into this stuff

3912
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:39,200
and i'm so into i was so into blink 182

3913
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:41,200
and did you know he was writing songs

3914
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:43,840
about aliens what back at that time yeah

3915
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:47,280
i did yeah yeah i did i did it but but

3916
02:37:52,150 --> 02:37:49,520
it didn't really

3917
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,160
it registers with me now of oh yeah like

3918
02:37:58,150 --> 02:37:54,720
he really was into aliens that's what he

3919
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:58,160
was yes yes this wasn't like funny ha ha

3920
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,160
my grandmother's an alien you know

3921
02:38:03,910 --> 02:38:02,240
chorus in a song right some punk rock

3922
02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:03,920
song i'm making it up i don't know if he

3923
02:38:09,910 --> 02:38:06,720
actually but but

3924
02:38:11,190 --> 02:38:09,920
then you go back and and realize oh no

3925
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:11,200
wait a minute

3926
02:38:14,870 --> 02:38:12,720
he was

3927
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:14,880
trying to tell us something

3928
02:38:18,710 --> 02:38:16,800
right this wasn't a skateboard punk just

3929
02:38:20,630 --> 02:38:18,720
writing a funny song

3930
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:20,640
yeah i mean

3931
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:24,000
but still maybe yeah

3932
02:38:27,429 --> 02:38:25,920
you know but but clearly he was into it

3933
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:27,439
you know and and that's what led to

3934
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:29,359
where he is today and and yeah you're

3935
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,960
right he is responsible for a lot of

3936
02:38:34,790 --> 02:38:32,479
this disclosure that's going on right

3937
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:34,800
now which is uh

3938
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:37,040
kind of humorous to me that this is the

3939
02:38:42,070 --> 02:38:39,600
guy now this is uh this is a question

3940
02:38:43,910 --> 02:38:42,080
that i i i generally ask all of the

3941
02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:43,920
guests on the show but

3942
02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:46,960
um but it needs to be asked if if you

3943
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:49,040
had the opportunity

3944
02:38:53,510 --> 02:38:51,439
right if you were your friend in bed

3945
02:38:56,230 --> 02:38:53,520
that night you know an e.t comes in the

3946
02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:56,240
room and says

3947
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:58,080
you want to go for a ride

3948
02:39:01,429 --> 02:38:59,840
do you go

3949
02:39:03,670 --> 02:39:01,439
100

3950
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,680
okay now how far do you take the ride do

3951
02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:05,760
you leave the planet

3952
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:08,240
wherever they want to take me really

3953
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,200
yes for uh okay what about time are you

3954
02:39:14,630 --> 02:39:13,520
worried about how long you'd be gone

3955
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:14,640
i

3956
02:39:55,670 --> 02:39:52,560
yeah yeah um you know and okay so now

3957
02:40:00,309 --> 02:39:55,680
let's take it the next step further

3958
02:40:03,830 --> 02:40:02,070
you can come with us but you can't come

3959
02:40:04,950 --> 02:40:03,840
back

3960
02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:04,960
yeah

3961
02:40:10,630 --> 02:40:07,200
it's that's such a difficult question

3962
02:40:13,269 --> 02:40:10,640
but i'd have to i i would have to say no

3963
02:40:14,630 --> 02:40:13,279
would you think about it or would you

3964
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:14,640
you know

3965
02:40:21,670 --> 02:40:19,600
about this and can i tell you tomorrow

3966
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:21,680
or is it just a flat no that's such a

3967
02:40:25,510 --> 02:40:23,439
crazy question

3968
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:25,520
but i know but uh

3969
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:28,160
yeah i mean honestly

3970
02:40:34,309 --> 02:40:30,160
i'm sure i would say

3971
02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:34,319
no oh man i think i would go but

3972
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:37,040
i don't know yeah exactly i know i know

3973
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:41,279
okay so now let's put one one more

3974
02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:43,840
let's sweeten the pot

3975
02:40:50,230 --> 02:40:47,040
what if they said

3976
02:40:52,309 --> 02:40:50,240
you can take your favorite food with you

3977
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:52,319
it's going to be cool you can bring the

3978
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:54,080
hello kitty guitar

3979
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:55,760
we love music

3980
02:41:04,150 --> 02:40:56,880
and

3981
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:05,990
you'd go that's a pretty sweet deal yeah

3982
02:41:10,790 --> 02:41:08,399
it's a pretty sweet deal yeah i mean i

3983
02:41:11,750 --> 02:41:10,800
yeah i'd have to go yeah yeah i i would

3984
02:41:13,910 --> 02:41:11,760
go too

3985
02:41:16,150 --> 02:41:13,920
and you know one of the things i

3986
02:41:18,469 --> 02:41:16,160
remember my daughter

3987
02:41:20,230 --> 02:41:18,479
saying to me she goes but but dad

3988
02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:20,240
you would leave us i said well you could

3989
02:41:24,630 --> 02:41:22,479
come no what if i don't want to go

3990
02:41:27,190 --> 02:41:24,640
and so that's the other part you know

3991
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:27,200
that you really have to think about

3992
02:41:29,750 --> 02:41:28,399
is

3993
02:41:31,429 --> 02:41:29,760
you know your friends and your family

3994
02:41:33,349 --> 02:41:31,439
that you're leaving behind that's the

3995
02:41:35,510 --> 02:41:33,359
only thing that's the toughest part that

3996
02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:35,520
i'd be thinking about okay so now now

3997
02:41:38,309 --> 02:41:37,600
let's let's take this uh

3998
02:41:42,950 --> 02:41:38,319
to

3999
02:41:46,469 --> 02:41:42,960
contemplate

4000
02:41:48,550 --> 02:41:46,479
elon musk yeah comes to you and says hey

4001
02:41:49,750 --> 02:41:48,560
i've got a seat for you jordan

4002
02:41:52,389 --> 02:41:49,760
um

4003
02:41:54,389 --> 02:41:52,399
one-way trip to mars you want to change

4004
02:41:56,630 --> 02:41:54,399
humanity

4005
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:56,640
i you know it's funny i actually talked

4006
02:42:02,710 --> 02:41:59,680
to people about this and on

4007
02:42:05,269 --> 02:42:02,720
i don't think i'd want to be

4008
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:05,279
one of the first people to go to mars

4009
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:08,080
but i would want to go to space so if i

4010
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:09,920
was ever asked the question

4011
02:42:15,590 --> 02:42:13,120
do you want to go to space in general

4012
02:42:19,269 --> 02:42:15,600
you would do the jeff bezos

4013
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:19,279
blue origin you know the yeah the virgin

4014
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:21,520
galactic i would you would do i would do

4015
02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:23,359
that too i would yeah i would do that

4016
02:42:27,349 --> 02:42:25,439
too because i i wouldn't be thinking

4017
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:27,359
about something bad happening from it i

4018
02:42:31,190 --> 02:42:29,760
would just be thinking about that

4019
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:31,200
it's worth

4020
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:34,000
that risk because nobody gets to do that

4021
02:42:37,590 --> 02:42:35,840
stuff well

4022
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:37,600
another way that i've always looked at

4023
02:42:41,269 --> 02:42:39,120
this

4024
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:41,279
is that we're talking about another

4025
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:43,120
planet right now

4026
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:45,120
and i don't know why that is any

4027
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:46,560
different

4028
02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:49,120
than a hundred

4029
02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:51,600
adventures a hundred sailors you know

4030
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:54,560
400 years ago getting on a sailboat

4031
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:56,000
and and

4032
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:58,560
you know a ship and splitting to go

4033
02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:00,479
discover the new world

4034
02:43:04,630 --> 02:43:02,720
right they're not coming back

4035
02:43:06,309 --> 02:43:04,640
no it's really no different it's no

4036
02:43:08,550 --> 02:43:06,319
different yeah it's no different this is

4037
02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:08,560
the new age of exploration that's right

4038
02:43:12,550 --> 02:43:10,479
yeah and there's always got to be

4039
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:12,560
somebody first right yeah and there

4040
02:43:16,550 --> 02:43:14,240
always will be and there always will be

4041
02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:16,560
people that want to do it you know

4042
02:43:20,790 --> 02:43:18,240
just not you

4043
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:20,800
just not me i mean i

4044
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:23,279
if i could do anyth like if i was given

4045
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:25,120
the option okay but you can go but you

4046
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:26,960
can also bring

4047
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:29,760
10 people with you right

4048
02:43:33,030 --> 02:43:31,359
that changes the game that changes the

4049
02:43:35,750 --> 02:43:33,040
game for me yeah that does i would maybe

4050
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:35,760
go yeah like if i could convince them to

4051
02:43:37,990 --> 02:43:36,479
go

4052
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:38,000
you know because because there are so

4053
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:41,520
many people that i care about that i i i

4054
02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:43,120
couldn't go

4055
02:43:47,269 --> 02:43:45,359
if one of them was like no i'm not going

4056
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:47,279
right right right well you know plus

4057
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:49,760
you're sharing the experience with your

4058
02:43:54,309 --> 02:43:52,160
friends yes exactly right and and and

4059
02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:54,319
going to mars with a bunch of people

4060
02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:55,600
that you don't know

4061
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:57,359
that you're probably not going to enjoy

4062
02:44:01,110 --> 02:43:59,279
this experience with that may actually

4063
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:01,120
make it pretty miserable yeah like

4064
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:03,040
getting on a on a tour bus with people

4065
02:44:06,770 --> 02:44:05,200
you don't know and going on tour yeah

4066
02:44:09,190 --> 02:44:06,780
yeah like that's never happened

4067
02:44:10,389 --> 02:44:09,200
[Laughter]

4068
02:44:13,030 --> 02:44:10,399
man

4069
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:13,040
why did you say that have is so

4070
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:14,800
um have you

4071
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:17,520
um you don't have to be specific yeah um

4072
02:44:20,790 --> 02:44:19,920
oh oh no i wanted to ask you this

4073
02:44:23,590 --> 02:44:20,800
um

4074
02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:23,600
you remember uh tony mcalpine right okay

4075
02:44:28,389 --> 02:44:25,680
great great guitar player yeah

4076
02:44:29,269 --> 02:44:28,399
and when he gets hired into steve vi's

4077
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:29,279
band

4078
02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:30,720
and i'm thinking

4079
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:32,479
well that makes a lot of sense you know

4080
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:34,720
who would steve hire as a rhythm guitar

4081
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:38,080
player you know tony mcalpine right

4082
02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:41,040
but for tony

4083
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:42,560
what does

4084
02:44:45,110 --> 02:44:43,840
is is

4085
02:44:47,110 --> 02:44:45,120
you know is he doing it because it's

4086
02:44:48,469 --> 02:44:47,120
steve vi and i'm not trying to be

4087
02:44:51,429 --> 02:44:48,479
controversial i'm not trying to be a

4088
02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:51,439
shock jock but does he do it to

4089
02:44:56,309 --> 02:44:54,000
because he wants to learn something

4090
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:56,319
expand his horizons and and go on the

4091
02:45:02,309 --> 02:44:59,200
adventure is he doing it for a paycheck

4092
02:45:04,790 --> 02:45:02,319
does he know that he's now not the lead

4093
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:04,800
guitar player right this is steve

4094
02:45:09,429 --> 02:45:07,439
eisemann right right and that that's

4095
02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:09,439
your role

4096
02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:12,000
when you go into marty friedman's

4097
02:45:16,630 --> 02:45:13,840
situation who

4098
02:45:18,790 --> 02:45:16,640
right it's marty friggin friedman

4099
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:18,800
um you're not the rhythm guitar player

4100
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:20,800
in that band are you if you know what i

4101
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:22,319
mean you mean the lead guitar player

4102
02:45:26,389 --> 02:45:23,279
yeah

4103
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:26,399
or or a combination of both but being in

4104
02:45:30,469 --> 02:45:28,720
marty's band is very much a combination

4105
02:45:33,190 --> 02:45:30,479
of being a lead guitar player too yeah

4106
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:33,200
yeah it's very uh

4107
02:45:37,830 --> 02:45:35,600
it's very demanding right so it's it's a

4108
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:37,840
challenge to to play in that band for

4109
02:45:41,269 --> 02:45:39,040
sure um

4110
02:45:43,110 --> 02:45:41,279
some of the rhythms are

4111
02:45:44,389 --> 02:45:43,120
equally as hard as some of the leads

4112
02:45:47,429 --> 02:45:44,399
he's playing you know it's just it's

4113
02:45:48,710 --> 02:45:47,439
it's it's a challenging band and and i

4114
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,720
never really looked at it like that i

4115
02:45:53,830 --> 02:45:50,560
just was like

4116
02:45:55,269 --> 02:45:53,840
i just like i love marty and i just want

4117
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:55,279
to go play with him that sounds right

4118
02:46:00,070 --> 02:45:58,000
really really fun and and it turned out

4119
02:46:02,150 --> 02:46:00,080
you know and i was i was actually pretty

4120
02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:02,160
nervous to be honest because at that

4121
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:03,760
time like i said that was my first time

4122
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:06,160
playing a seven-string guitar and i had

4123
02:46:09,429 --> 02:46:07,600
to really

4124
02:46:10,790 --> 02:46:09,439
learn how to do it and and do it well

4125
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:10,800
and and also

4126
02:46:15,190 --> 02:46:13,600
i had uh tendonitis at the time and my

4127
02:46:16,550 --> 02:46:15,200
hand was just killing me after playing

4128
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:16,560
if i'd play guitar for 30 minutes my

4129
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:18,240
hand would be killing me and

4130
02:46:21,030 --> 02:46:20,080
and and yeah it was it was really brutal

4131
02:46:22,550 --> 02:46:21,040
and

4132
02:46:24,389 --> 02:46:22,560
then i had to go play a seven-string

4133
02:46:26,309 --> 02:46:24,399
guitar which i've never played before

4134
02:46:27,910 --> 02:46:26,319
and learn music that was definitely more

4135
02:46:31,269 --> 02:46:27,920
complicated than any music that i've

4136
02:46:34,790 --> 02:46:31,279
ever learned before and i was like

4137
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:34,800
i have to do this if i don't step up and

4138
02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:36,160
figure this out

4139
02:46:40,230 --> 02:46:38,160
and and get through my tendonitis and

4140
02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:40,240
all that stuff then i i you know i'm not

4141
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,080
gonna have this opportunity to do it

4142
02:46:47,110 --> 02:46:44,240
again and and i told marty that you know

4143
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:47,120
i was having hand problems and

4144
02:46:50,550 --> 02:46:49,279
he you know i i

4145
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:50,560
you know he basically said learn some

4146
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:52,399
songs take video send it to me i did

4147
02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:54,319
that he said dude you totally have the

4148
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:55,680
gig if you wanted i would love for you

4149
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:56,800
to play in the band

4150
02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:01,510
i don't know if i could do this like i

4151
02:47:04,950 --> 02:47:02,960
don't know if i could commit to a tour

4152
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:04,960
because i don't know if my hand

4153
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,040
could sustain it that just must have

4154
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:09,600
sucked right an opportunity like that i

4155
02:47:13,349 --> 02:47:11,840
wanted to ask you uh especially before

4156
02:47:16,550 --> 02:47:13,359
we run out of time

4157
02:47:17,910 --> 02:47:16,560
um i've seen a couple of videos um

4158
02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:17,920
over the years

4159
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:21,279
of you guys doing some queen covers

4160
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:24,720
right yes yes and you actually sang

4161
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:26,800
yeah we did uh the bohemian rhapsody

4162
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:28,319
yeah but that's it that's i was thinking

4163
02:47:32,309 --> 02:47:30,240
it was uh we are the champions that one

4164
02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:32,319
i just played that you played right now

4165
02:47:37,429 --> 02:47:34,479
okay but you sang

4166
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:37,439
bohemian rhapsody yeah which is

4167
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:38,720
which is you know it's funny because

4168
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:41,600
that was the first time i've ever uh

4169
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:44,479
sang leads really at a show honestly i

4170
02:47:47,830 --> 02:47:46,080
i've always sang in bands i've always

4171
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:47,840
been a backup singer or whatever but but

4172
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:50,479
that that type of thing made me pretty

4173
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:52,880
nervous like i'll be honest and uh it's

4174
02:47:55,830 --> 02:47:53,760
funny

4175
02:47:58,070 --> 02:47:55,840
well you can hide behind your guitar all

4176
02:48:00,309 --> 02:47:58,080
day long right when you're singing that

4177
02:48:02,790 --> 02:48:00,319
microphone isn't much to hide behind i

4178
02:48:04,550 --> 02:48:02,800
know and and i just was like i've never

4179
02:48:05,990 --> 02:48:04,560
done this before but i'm gonna do it i'm

4180
02:48:08,389 --> 02:48:06,000
gonna sing lead on a song and honestly

4181
02:48:10,309 --> 02:48:08,399
looking back at it i'm like yeah i did

4182
02:48:12,710 --> 02:48:10,319
fine like i i don't look at my singing

4183
02:48:14,389 --> 02:48:12,720
on those videos and go oh dude yeah like

4184
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:14,399
i totally killed it but

4185
02:48:19,349 --> 02:48:16,800
it really just like i like to do things

4186
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:19,359
that make me feel really uncomfortable

4187
02:48:23,110 --> 02:48:21,680
i like to do that right right so oh and

4188
02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:23,120
you know this actually relates back to a

4189
02:48:25,110 --> 02:48:24,240
question you asked me earlier when you

4190
02:48:26,550 --> 02:48:25,120
were saying

4191
02:48:29,750 --> 02:48:26,560
talking about writing songs and what

4192
02:48:32,230 --> 02:48:29,760
like what challenges you the most for me

4193
02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:32,240
what challenges me the most is

4194
02:48:37,990 --> 02:48:35,600
this band hot crazy and how

4195
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:38,000
i have to become

4196
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:40,399
a great singer yeah

4197
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:43,040
and play all this stuff at the same time

4198
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:45,359
i mean it and oh

4199
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:48,160
and there's another uh i have to ask you

4200
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:51,600
um in uh specifically those uh those

4201
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:53,279
queen covers that you're doing with

4202
02:48:57,510 --> 02:48:54,800
marty

4203
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:57,520
he's got some rhythm guitar chops

4204
02:49:01,030 --> 02:48:58,560
of course

4205
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:01,040
i'm being serious man yeah

4206
02:49:05,590 --> 02:49:02,960
yeah i mean he dude he's he's great i

4207
02:49:07,750 --> 02:49:05,600
mean i mean we we all we love he's he's

4208
02:49:09,590 --> 02:49:07,760
one of the greats right yeah but you're

4209
02:49:11,670 --> 02:49:09,600
playing the solo stuff and he's playing

4210
02:49:13,990 --> 02:49:11,680
rhythm guitar yeah dude to

4211
02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:14,000
to be one of the greats

4212
02:49:18,870 --> 02:49:15,520
you need to do

4213
02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:18,880
both with authority right yes right

4214
02:49:22,950 --> 02:49:20,640
rhythm guitar can never be a second

4215
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:22,960
thought because if you ask me

4216
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:25,040
i say rhythm guitar is more important

4217
02:49:29,910 --> 02:49:28,240
than lead guitar to be honest because

4218
02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:29,920
the song

4219
02:49:33,590 --> 02:49:31,359
yeah sure there are songs that have

4220
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:33,600
amazing solos that are iconic and you

4221
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:36,479
know blah blah all that stuff but

4222
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:38,319
this the the

4223
02:49:43,910 --> 02:49:41,200
the lead guitar is just not

4224
02:49:46,550 --> 02:49:43,920
the most important part it's 30 seconds

4225
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:46,560
of the song if if yeah

4226
02:49:50,870 --> 02:49:48,160
right and then and then i have to go so

4227
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:50,880
far to say that there's a lot of songs

4228
02:49:53,670 --> 02:49:52,800
today that have lead guitar in it where

4229
02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:53,680
it's like

4230
02:49:57,349 --> 02:49:56,160
it the lead and the part

4231
02:50:01,750 --> 02:49:57,359
are so

4232
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:01,760
pointless and bad that to me don't do it

4233
02:50:05,670 --> 02:50:03,760
don't have the lead in the song it's

4234
02:50:07,349 --> 02:50:05,680
just pointless it's now you sound like

4235
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:07,359
you're manufacturing music you're going

4236
02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:10,160
whoa i guess this is where the solo goes

4237
02:50:13,910 --> 02:50:11,840
it's like if if it's not going to be

4238
02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:13,920
good and actually do something as a

4239
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:15,760
musical part for the song

4240
02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:22,870
have what do you think of uh uh

4241
02:50:28,950 --> 02:50:26,960
the guitar solo in the immigrant song

4242
02:50:31,510 --> 02:50:28,960
there isn't one yeah there is

4243
02:50:33,269 --> 02:50:31,520
yeah and i don't think that that song

4244
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:33,279
that's a really cool song right like

4245
02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:35,040
that's one of my favorite zeppelin songs

4246
02:50:39,030 --> 02:50:36,479
right right

4247
02:50:40,950 --> 02:50:39,040
did it need a solo no and you know what

4248
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:40,960
not every song needs a solo not every

4249
02:50:44,230 --> 02:50:42,640
song needs a solo right like i think

4250
02:50:45,750 --> 02:50:44,240
about that every time i'm doing a hot

4251
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:45,760
crazy song i'm like

4252
02:50:50,710 --> 02:50:48,080
every time i take a solo i'm like

4253
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:50,720
it's a bit indulgent isn't it now

4254
02:50:54,870 --> 02:50:52,399
yeah and they are indulging well the

4255
02:50:57,190 --> 02:50:54,880
whole band is indulgent yeah but uh

4256
02:50:58,870 --> 02:50:57,200
let's okay so if we talk about like

4257
02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:58,880
manly in heels

4258
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:01,600
uh it's a rock and roll song just forget

4259
02:51:05,750 --> 02:51:04,240
about the video okay let's just go with

4260
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:05,760
the song itself

4261
02:51:11,269 --> 02:51:08,560
um it's really really cool

4262
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:11,279
but that friggin guitar solo

4263
02:51:16,630 --> 02:51:13,760
you got a little bit of everything in

4264
02:51:19,030 --> 02:51:16,640
that you've got a little lick

4265
02:51:21,349 --> 02:51:19,040
right a bunch of really cool stuff that

4266
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:21,359
says you know what man i can friggin

4267
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:23,040
really play this thing

4268
02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:25,840
right did you write you know for solo

4269
02:51:30,309 --> 02:51:28,479
that kind of solo that's for guitar

4270
02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:30,319
players yeah

4271
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:31,359
well

4272
02:51:34,790 --> 02:51:33,120
you're gonna laugh at how i wrote it

4273
02:51:36,070 --> 02:51:34,800
it's just literally

4274
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:36,080
i was just

4275
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:37,279
i i

4276
02:51:40,870 --> 02:51:39,520
play a chord progression that i like

4277
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:40,880
and then

4278
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:43,439
uh in fact i don't think i i think i

4279
02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:45,359
wrote the chord progression first but i

4280
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:46,640
sang it

4281
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:48,640
i was just singing i wasn't i wasn't

4282
02:51:59,110 --> 02:51:50,319
even holding a guitar i just sang it and

4283
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:01,190
you know all that stuff i'm just singing

4284
02:52:05,590 --> 02:52:03,200
it right and i'm just like oh that's

4285
02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:05,600
cool love that melody that could be a

4286
02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:07,520
i could sing that that's a vocal melody

4287
02:52:13,349 --> 02:52:10,319
great i'm gonna write that now is is

4288
02:52:14,389 --> 02:52:13,359
that's something that i've always felt

4289
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:14,399
uh

4290
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:16,960
i mean you do it so well

4291
02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:20,160
but brian may played that way too

4292
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:23,439
you know where it it felt like the back

4293
02:52:26,469 --> 02:52:25,359
back of singers for leonard skinner

4294
02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:26,479
right i mean

4295
02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:29,200
you know what i mean just precise

4296
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:33,040
melodic uh written for the music first

4297
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:35,760
um but it's got this vocal sensibility

4298
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:36,800
to it

4299
02:52:39,429 --> 02:52:38,080
yeah because

4300
02:52:44,070 --> 02:52:39,439
some people

4301
02:52:46,389 --> 02:52:44,080
even though they're guitar players

4302
02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:46,399
you still have that

4303
02:52:50,469 --> 02:52:47,680
singer

4304
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:50,479
mentality about melodic sense

4305
02:52:53,590 --> 02:52:51,760
you know

4306
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:53,600
it's it's all about just notes and

4307
02:52:57,910 --> 02:52:56,080
phrasing and and some people can get so

4308
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:57,920
into the technical side of guitar that

4309
02:53:00,309 --> 02:52:59,279
they don't think like that they just

4310
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:00,319
think of

4311
02:53:06,710 --> 02:53:03,520
uh shapes in boxes and it's like there's

4312
02:53:08,469 --> 02:53:06,720
but there's there's notes in there like

4313
02:53:12,150 --> 02:53:08,479
they're they're all notes you have to

4314
02:53:13,510 --> 02:53:12,160
think of it like notes not as a shape

4315
02:53:15,510 --> 02:53:13,520
now uh

4316
02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:15,520
since this is a ufo show we're going to

4317
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:17,040
end on a ufo

4318
02:53:21,429 --> 02:53:19,520
guitar question

4319
02:53:27,990 --> 02:53:21,439
i

4320
02:53:30,469 --> 02:53:28,000
that e.t

4321
02:53:32,710 --> 02:53:30,479
whoever they are and wherever they are

4322
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:32,720
has to have gone through the same stages

4323
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:35,600
of evolution as us

4324
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:37,520
so that must include

4325
02:53:43,750 --> 02:53:42,000
theater comedy the arts sculpture

4326
02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:43,760
music

4327
02:53:49,269 --> 02:53:46,000
maybe even guitar

4328
02:53:52,230 --> 02:53:49,279
that they would appreciate

4329
02:53:54,389 --> 02:53:52,240
music they would appreciate comedy they

4330
02:53:57,670 --> 02:53:54,399
would appreciate these things because

4331
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:57,680
they have evolved into a higher being

4332
02:54:02,870 --> 02:54:00,399
right right yeah i mean i feel like you

4333
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:02,880
can see videos of animals clearly

4334
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:04,720
thinking something's funny

4335
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:05,520
right

4336
02:54:12,550 --> 02:54:10,240
everything in the universe can have a

4337
02:54:16,150 --> 02:54:12,560
sense of humor right so you're right and

4338
02:54:18,550 --> 02:54:16,160
and and and and music i i'm sure

4339
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:18,560
they have their music but it's probably

4340
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:21,520
way different than us and and i i mean

4341
02:54:24,950 --> 02:54:23,120
yeah like if we're talking about numbers

4342
02:54:26,950 --> 02:54:24,960
yeah there's probably other planets that

4343
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:26,960
has or had

4344
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:29,680
rock bands well okay you know but there

4345
02:54:34,230 --> 02:54:32,000
are some guys and gals that came and

4346
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:34,240
went on this planet that i do think

4347
02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:36,640
visited us that were e.t

4348
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:39,520
hendrix alien yeah

4349
02:54:45,830 --> 02:54:43,680
bowie alien randy rhodes alien yeah just

4350
02:54:49,030 --> 02:54:45,840
came by and did a drive-by and split

4351
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:49,040
where they were just way beyond our own

4352
02:54:53,110 --> 02:54:52,000
consciousness at that moment

4353
02:54:57,429 --> 02:54:53,120
uh

4354
02:54:59,590 --> 02:54:57,439
am i crazy to talk like that i mean i

4355
02:55:02,550 --> 02:54:59,600
i think that

4356
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:02,560
a lot of humans have been influenced by

4357
02:55:08,630 --> 02:55:05,359
aliens one way or another uh really

4358
02:55:10,230 --> 02:55:08,640
profound human beings where they were

4359
02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:10,240
you know whenever

4360
02:55:15,269 --> 02:55:14,080
i'm doing something musically or

4361
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:15,279
we're talking about how you get into

4362
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:18,640
this zone yes yes yes yes so so

4363
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:20,479
i could go so far to say that everything

4364
02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:23,359
i do this is super crazy talking out

4365
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:24,560
there but whatever

4366
02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:26,479
that it's really not

4367
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:29,120
me it's just that i'm

4368
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:30,479
connecting

4369
02:55:37,990 --> 02:55:36,000
a good vessel to translate that

4370
02:55:38,950 --> 02:55:38,000
you know yeah i do i do

4371
02:55:41,349 --> 02:55:38,960
um

4372
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:41,359
when just like when a when the light

4373
02:55:47,269 --> 02:55:43,439
bulb was invented or something of that

4374
02:55:49,349 --> 02:55:47,279
sort i think that what i'm doing is

4375
02:55:50,710 --> 02:55:49,359
not to say that i'm as important as

4376
02:55:52,710 --> 02:55:50,720
someone who invented the light bulb it's

4377
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:52,720
not that i just think that my process of

4378
02:55:55,590 --> 02:55:54,720
how i'm getting this information

4379
02:55:58,150 --> 02:55:55,600
is

4380
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,160
the same you could almost be a fill-in

4381
02:56:02,150 --> 02:56:00,479
host uh when i'm out of town

4382
02:56:04,870 --> 02:56:02,160
i mean these are the things that we

4383
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:04,880
ponder um on this show nightly and and

4384
02:56:08,550 --> 02:56:06,560
think about this because

4385
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:08,560
when um

4386
02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:09,920
these

4387
02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:14,160
if you're a musician or sculptor or

4388
02:56:19,030 --> 02:56:16,240
painter or writer this creative thing

4389
02:56:21,429 --> 02:56:19,040
that comes along where this originality

4390
02:56:22,389 --> 02:56:21,439
happens elvis where where did that you

4391
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:22,399
know what

4392
02:56:27,830 --> 02:56:24,720
is that channeled channeled right is

4393
02:56:28,630 --> 02:56:27,840
that coming for you know going to

4394
02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:28,640
uh

4395
02:56:32,309 --> 02:56:30,399
going to the mountaintop

4396
02:56:34,309 --> 02:56:32,319
getting into that mental zone and

4397
02:56:35,670 --> 02:56:34,319
tapping into something

4398
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,680
that uh

4399
02:56:39,670 --> 02:56:37,439
takes you to that next level hendricks

4400
02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:39,680
is a great example of that you know

4401
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:42,160
where it's just so

4402
02:56:47,110 --> 02:56:45,200
bowie bowie's sang about it so much that

4403
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:47,120
i think he was trying to tell us

4404
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:48,240
something

4405
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:50,640
where i i just feel like they they were

4406
02:56:55,190 --> 02:56:53,279
channeling into a higher consciousness

4407
02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:55,200
yeah and the higher consciousness to me

4408
02:57:00,309 --> 02:56:57,600
has to do with

4409
02:57:02,469 --> 02:57:00,319
et's as well it's all it's all the the

4410
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,479
universe right i just i feel it's all

4411
02:57:06,309 --> 02:57:04,319
interconnected and

4412
02:57:09,190 --> 02:57:06,319
uh it's all about us tapping into a

4413
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:09,200
higher consciousness now uh i want to

4414
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:11,040
thank you yeah this has been just a

4415
02:57:14,630 --> 02:57:12,560
wonderful night on the show and i know

4416
02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:14,640
that uh everybody out there

4417
02:57:18,550 --> 02:57:17,200
uh has enjoyed it too as well but what

4418
02:57:20,870 --> 02:57:18,560
when when

4419
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:20,880
what's next for hot crazy

4420
02:57:25,269 --> 02:57:23,200
when is uh

4421
02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:25,279
uh more material coming out i know

4422
02:57:30,790 --> 02:57:28,800
you're recording now but but what's next

4423
02:57:32,950 --> 02:57:30,800
that very much remains to be seen we're

4424
02:57:35,110 --> 02:57:32,960
we're recording an album right now but

4425
02:57:37,269 --> 02:57:35,120
it just kind of depends on the route we

4426
02:57:39,030 --> 02:57:37,279
go if we say you know screw it and we're

4427
02:57:40,550 --> 02:57:39,040
just going to do it independently for

4428
02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:40,560
now as far as you know being able to

4429
02:57:43,590 --> 02:57:42,640
fund everything or if we're doing a

4430
02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:43,600
label

4431
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:45,279
then

4432
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:48,080
that will take a little bit longer but

4433
02:57:52,389 --> 02:57:49,840
we're trying to get it done as fast as

4434
02:57:54,309 --> 02:57:52,399
possible and i really hope that by

4435
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:54,319
summer of this year

4436
02:57:59,910 --> 02:57:56,880
may you know june whatever album would

4437
02:58:02,230 --> 02:57:59,920
be done i would say an ep because i

4438
02:58:04,389 --> 02:58:02,240
think that i would rather put out an ep

4439
02:58:06,790 --> 02:58:04,399
first because i want to

4440
02:58:09,030 --> 02:58:06,800
try to do an ep and a full-length record

4441
02:58:10,790 --> 02:58:09,040
this year so i would like to get an ep

4442
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,800
out first so that we have

4443
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:12,560
you know five songs out there and we can

4444
02:58:16,550 --> 02:58:15,279
just start go and play but and you know

4445
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:16,560
and then we pretty much have a full

4446
02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:18,800
record written but i just feel like i'd

4447
02:58:22,389 --> 02:58:20,960
rather do an ep first because

4448
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:22,399
i don't know it makes me feel better to

4449
02:58:27,190 --> 02:58:24,880
not put that all out at once and then

4450
02:58:30,550 --> 02:58:27,200
feel like the pressure to okay i need to

4451
02:58:33,830 --> 02:58:30,560
write another record right this second

4452
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:33,840
awesome show tonight perfect show now uh

4453
02:58:41,349 --> 02:58:37,760
as we wrap uh jordan and i are gonna go

4454
02:58:43,590 --> 02:58:41,359
uh hunt some ufos so i'll keep every uh

4455
02:58:45,670 --> 02:58:43,600
everybody updated as to uh what we're

4456
02:58:47,269 --> 02:58:45,680
about to go and see

4457
02:58:48,950 --> 02:58:47,279
thank you so much jordan great show

4458
02:58:51,190 --> 02:58:48,960
great show great conversation thanks so

4459
02:58:52,710 --> 02:58:51,200
much for having me man it was a blast

4460
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:52,720
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4461
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,640
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02:59:06,150 --> 02:59:04,160
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02:59:07,269 --> 02:59:06,160
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4467
02:59:09,590 --> 02:59:07,279
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02:59:10,790 --> 02:59:09,600
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02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:16,160
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4474
02:59:21,190 --> 02:59:18,960
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4475
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:21,200
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4476
02:59:25,429 --> 02:59:22,080
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4477
02:59:28,150 --> 02:59:25,439
until then i want everybody to be safe

4478
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:28,160
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